Oh Mother! Big Brother!!

I see you're only 16 years old. So I don't think you have enough life experience. I bet people in Germany 1932 didn't think in less than 10 years time what would happen.
 
I see you're only 16 years old. So I don't think you have enough life experience. I bet people in Germany 1932 didn't think in less than 10 years time what would happen.

you have a point. There is a good chance that Gordan Brown has a secret hate for Jews.

I see your 86, so i guess u remember the war :p
 
My point being that goverments imposing there agenda on people, basically like a snowball effect. If Hitler said what he was planning to do in 1933 (world war and holocaust) he'd been thrown out of office.

For example ID cards, the goverment are trying to pass it as "anti-terror laws" but what in the future do to ANYTHING at all requires ID card? Or arrested & charged for not carrying it? Or being friends with people with no ID cards?
 
My point being that goverments imposing there agenda on people, basically like a snowball effect. If Hitler said what he was planning to do in 1933 (world war and holocaust) he'd been thrown out of office.

but hitler was fairly open about his antisemitic views.

and im not denying there's been tings in the past, but not every government is evil.
 
You may have noticed the conditioning that goes before something like this is implemented in the real world. Some would say films like Johnny mnemonic were created to condition us to accept a future were brain implants are common place

They would obviously lack any basic understanding of where the film comes from then if they truely believed that..
 
My point being that goverments imposing there agenda on people, basically like a snowball effect. If Hitler said what he was planning to do in 1933 (world war and holocaust) he'd been thrown out of office.

For example ID cards, the goverment are trying to pass it as "anti-terror laws" but what in the future do to ANYTHING at all requires ID card? Or arrested & charged for not carrying it? Or being friends with people with no ID cards?

The average supermarket already has just as much information about its "shopper card" holders as the government. Yet strangely, no-one seems to think that this is unusual, and you rarely hear people complaining about it.

The government already has a stack of information about you via through TV license, driver's license, NHS card, etc. The introduction of ID cards would not change anything except the format in which this information was held. The government would not know any more about you than it currently does, so what's the big deal?

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Dogoid said:
i don't mind disagreement, but it must have basis, it cant be mindless.

I feel the same way about agreement.

Did you notice that the news article is about an American company btw? Nothing to do with the UK, so who gives a monkey's? It's totally irrelevant to us.
 
The government already has a stack of information about you via through TV license, driver's license, NHS card, etc.


so just because they have information about you in other areas its fine to have a complacent attitude regarding any new schemes which eat away at our freedoms bit by bit?

anyway, what you mentioned above is public information, i.e information based on the public sector, services etc. this is snooping into your private life into your homes, a camera on your children.
 
it seems that when people make a knee jerk reaction to stories like this , they have no basis for that reaction at all

The knee jerk reaction is to immediately say "omgz a camera it must be filming me and sending the information to the governmentses"

Nowhere in the article does it say the information is transmitted to anyone, stored in any form or even accessible. In the same way that gmail doesn't read your emails when they give you contextual adverts, they can just throw the data away and use it only to tell who is in the room for the purposes of context sensitive information.

Although I don't think a camera is the best way of doing it. Would rather have an RFID system or something.
 
so just because they have information about you in other areas its fine to have a complacent attitude regarding any new schemes which eat away at our freedoms bit by bit?

Is that what I said? No, it's not. So... relevance = 0.

anyway, what you mentioned above is public information, i.e information based on the public sector, services etc. this is snooping into your private life into your homes, a camera on your children.

The camera is only there if you want it to be. The freedom is all yours.

Now please...

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UK ISPs who use the dreaded "hiddencamer0rz2spiezonj00z0mg" technology.

You said:



I am simply asking for the names of 6 UK ISPs who currently use this technology.



no one idiot, no isp is using it yet, re read the entire thread, it is in experimental stages. but if it IS DEEMED SUCCESSFUL you can guarantee isp's will adopt it., just like how phenom got its traction.
 
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