Oil boilers

Don
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Hi all,

So our oil boiler is near it's 20th birthday...we are thinking it's time to replace it. In people's experience what is this like? Costs? Is it dependant on certain situations?

Thanks
 
Assuming it is to be fitted in the same location then budget a days labour for an OFTEC installer (£250 or so in Oxfordshire) and then the cost of the boiler itself.

What do you want to know?
 
Assuming it is to be fitted in the same location then budget a days labour for an OFTEC installer (£250 or so in Oxfordshire) and then the cost of the boiler itself.

What do you want to know?

What are the perks of new oil boilers? Presumably more efficient and safer? Is there a variety on what you can purchase depending on features or are they all of the same ilk, what is the price variant? I am due to get a call back from a company from a free visit/quote. I'd just like some heads up before that!
 
change it over to a gas boiler.

I had an oil boiler and it was nothing but a PITA when having to fill the tank up with oil or when the oil ran out.
 
To be honest, unless your boiler is actually causing you issues, then likely this is a waste of money. Oil boilers have not improved massively over the years and you'll probably find that your savings on fuel are minimal IME. The only reason that we ended up finally ditching our ~30yo (at the time) Worcester Danesmoor was that it was actually falling apart, the chassis had rusted through and it was in an awful physical state.

In terms of prices, just go check them out on a site such as Plumbnation or wherever :) https://www.plumbnation.co.uk
 
change it over to a gas boiler.

I had an oil boiler and it was nothing but a PITA when having to fill the tank up with oil or when the oil ran out.
? this will cost him a fortune, LPG tank installation alone will run to thousands and thousands, and LPG is hardly cheap with no less faff at all. I'd stick to oil over LPG personally.
 
change it over to a gas boiler.

I had an oil boiler and it was nothing but a PITA when having to fill the tank up with oil or when the oil ran out.

Always funny when folk say that, it's not available in my area.

To be honest, unless your boiler is actually causing you issues, then likely this is a waste of money. Oil boilers have not improved massively over the years and you'll probably find that your savings on fuel are minimal IME. The only reason that we ended up finally ditching our ~30yo (at the time) Worcester Danesmoor was that it was actually falling apart, the chassis had rusted through and it was in an awful physical state.

In terms of prices, just go check them out on a site such as Plumbnation or wherever :) https://www.plumbnation.co.uk

Thanks - well it was brought up as we planned knocking down a wall in the kitchen and the boiler would need to be moved, if we were doing that would it worth changing the whole thing. I will go through with the visit anyway and see what is what, the house change is potentially years away anyway.
 
Always funny when folk say that, it's not available in my area.

Its just completely dumb isnt it. It is similar to years ago when Cable internet was considered good, people would suggest that i signed up to cable when i still had ~3mbit ADSL. As if something like that wouldnt have been on my radar had it been available :p

Thanks - well it was brought up as we planned knocking down a wall in the kitchen and the boiler would need to be moved, if we were doing that would it worth changing the whole thing. I will go through with the visit anyway and see what is what, the house change is potentially years away anyway.

Makes sense if you are moving it, but really consider whether your boiler is EOL. A replacement is likely to run to a couple of thousand supply only and will likely be not much better than what you have (unless your existing is in a bad state of course)
 
are you thinking of going for an oil combi or a regular system boiler. only reason I ask is i'm considering replacing our current oil boiler for a new one and a combi sounds ideal for removing the water tanks from the loft and maybe getting a higher pressure for the showers etc but I've heard oil combi's can be troublesome and expensive to fix compared to regular system boilers
 
What about move on from oil or gas eg air or ground source heating?
Surely your home needs to have under floor heating and appropriate insulation to make that change worthwhile? I'd love a ground source heat pump but either the heat is going into the foundations or my radiators aren't getting warm or I'm getting crappy efficiency. The energy density of gas and oil and the high temps they can give you are hard to match without designing it in from the start.
 
What about move on from oil or gas eg air or ground source heating?

Just like that :D

Have you done the fabric and infiltration calcs for his property, do you know what heating system is in currently (radiators, UFH etc), have you compared prices between a new oil boiler and a full GSHP conversion?

OP, just see what installers recommend in your area. I've read good things about various Grant boilers (simplistic, easy to service, efficient, well priced etc). We're on a 2009 Warmflow and although there's plenty of info on them being pants, it just chugs along nicely, didn't need much tweaking when serviced and will do nicely until it starts to die.

I'd personally keep your current boiler and just pay for a service and tweak. If all is well, nothing is corroding away or causing any issues, then you're all good :)
 
Just like that :D

Have you done the fabric and infiltration calcs for his property, do you know what heating system is in currently (radiators, UFH etc), have you compared prices between a new oil boiler and a full GSHP conversion?

OP, just see what installers recommend in your area. I've read good things about various Grant boilers (simplistic, easy to service, efficient, well priced etc). We're on a 2009 Warmflow and although there's plenty of info on them being pants, it just chugs along nicely, didn't need much tweaking when serviced and will do nicely until it starts to die.

I'd personally keep your current boiler and just pay for a service and tweak. If all is well, nothing is corroding away or causing any issues, then you're all good :)

Sorry, I didn't mean it in that way ie just flip from one to another. It was for the OP to consider looking at that as an option and do their research and studies from there. If you are looking to change from fuel to another I would have thought it would be worthy to at least consider other alternatives.
 
It is a shame you cant get Kidd boilers any more. They were achieving A+ rating in the 80's and had a design life of 40years+ (Effectively indefinite)

And all without any bothersome electronics.
 
OP, just see what installers recommend in your area. I've read good things about various Grant boilers (simplistic, easy to service, efficient, well priced etc). We're on a 2009 Warmflow and although there's plenty of info on them being pants, it just chugs along nicely, didn't need much tweaking when serviced and will do nicely until it starts to die.

We also have a Grant Vortex enclosure with a Riello RDB 2.2 burner. It's been great for 4 years but I have no basis for comparison. Obviously would love it to be better on oil though!
 
I have a Worcester/Bosch combi which is now 10 yrs old - If I had had any decent head of water in loft I would have stuck with the open system - This boiler has been the most expensive heating system I have ever had and that isn't oil cost - it is the servicing and failures - If I started again I would have a sealed pressure system run by a condenser oil boiler unless I could find a non condenser - My oil boiler at the old house was 20 yrs old when we left and it never failed in that time - I just took front off and cleaned it out and it was good to go --I used there and here around 1100ltrs a year but do have a wood burner as well - cooking is electric.

ps- We do not have gas in this area.
 
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