Ok, i need to vent, Vista, a really nice operating system but.....

Jono8 · 20 Jul 2007 at 16:56

Games are an absolute joke. Practically every game i have tried crashes fairly constantly after playing it for a bit, with either a nvidia driver error or an application error. I have tried everything but nothing works. At first i thought my 8800gtx was faulty (well, i still do) but even with my 7800gtx i am getting loads of software/driver crashes, although no hard system lock ups/restarts like im getting with my 8800.

I really wanted to like and use vista but its just depressing me how i can't use my expensive gaming machine for....well... gaming.

Looks like a replacement 8800 and a copy of XP is in on the cards.

I realise some people are using vista with games no problems which is great but it has been a horrible experience for me and the many others (You've just got to go to the nvidia forums to see the amount of people who are in distress over their gaming systems in vista).

Any others totally at a loss with gaming in Vista?

m4cc45 · 20 Jul 2007 at 16:58

Have to say I'm fine but I'm using an ATI graphics card.

If so many people are complaining then I can only assume it's poor driver support. I'm sure they'll catch up sooner or later though.

M.

something daft already!! · 20 Jul 2007 at 17:00

Which Nvidia driver are you using? I find the most stable is 158.24. It might be worth checking your ram as Vista can be a little more picky than XP. My stability issues were resolved with new ram

Glaucus · 20 Jul 2007 at 17:00

All this flak is a bit unfair on vista, as it's a nvidia driver problem. Not exactly MS fault that some companys where slow on the uptake.
When I was using vista beta I was playing all my games fine although at a slightly slower frame rate. That was after a few tweaks.

Jono8 · 20 Jul 2007 at 17:02

howiepoohs said:
Which Nvidia driver are you using? I find the most stable is 158.24. It might be worth checking your ram as Vista can be a little more picky than XP. My stability issues were resolved with new ram

nope 158.24's were no better. They made some problems go away, but made new ones.

Jono8 · 20 Jul 2007 at 17:03

AcidHell2 said:
All this flak is a bit unfair on vista, as it's a nvidia driver problem. Not exactly MS fault that some companys where slow on the uptake.
When I was using vista beta I was playing all my games fine although at a slightly slower frame rate. That was after a few tweaks.

I agree, i was'nt attacking microsoft, but that still doesnt take the fact away that Vista just isnt good for games at the moment.

Low Hangers · 20 Jul 2007 at 17:23

this article may explain some of the problems with vista and games

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3044

Jono8 · 20 Jul 2007 at 17:28

Low Hangers said:
this article may explain some of the problems with vista and games

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3044

hm, should i get an extra gig or two of memory then?

stoofa · 20 Jul 2007 at 17:50

Now I do have a high-end system:
Core2Duo E6600 @ 3Ghz, 4GB RAM, 640MB 8800GTS
I run under Vista Ultimate 64bit.
I game on a Dell 24" LCD, so 1920 resolution is where I like to be.

I don't have any issue gaming at all.
I'm running the latest posted drivers on NVidia's site, not the beta drivers the latest release.
Maybe I'm lucky I don't know.
I do know that if I played benchmarks or played 3DMark I'd probably see I'm getting slightly worse performance udner Vista than I was under XP.
However as I don't, what I'm see in real world performance is an excellent gaming performance.

Margaret · 20 Jul 2007 at 17:56

Vista is great for me, Stalker, DiRT, HL2/CSS, BF2142, Overlord, Hitman BM, WiC Beta all work fine for me, no problems at all.

Chronictank · 20 Jul 2007 at 18:27

I have problems getting various things to run because of Driver Signing, there is also the almost completely random burts of disk activity i have yet to find the source of :S, and ofc the performance drop from XP
Other than that i cant really complain

gareth170 · 20 Jul 2007 at 18:43

stoofa said:
Maybe I'm lucky I don't know.

i have a high-end system too:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4200+ @ 2.9ghz
4gb ddr800
2600xt ddr4
30" lcd monitor
vista home premium

i have no gaming issues too. every game i play in vista is fast. but yes when i benchmark in vista it is slower then xp but benchmarks are nothing really. the real world gaming performance is great in vista...

PhillyDee · 20 Jul 2007 at 21:24

stoofa said:
Now I do have a high-end system:
Core2Duo E6600 @ 3Ghz, 4GB RAM, 640MB 8800GTS
I run under Vista Ultimate 64bit.
I game on a Dell 24" LCD, so 1920 resolution is where I like to be.

I don't have any issue gaming at all.
I'm running the latest posted drivers on NVidia's site, not the beta drivers the latest release.
Maybe I'm lucky I don't know.
I do know that if I played benchmarks or played 3DMark I'd probably see I'm getting slightly worse performance udner Vista than I was under XP.
However as I don't, what I'm see in real world performance is an excellent gaming performance.

Same here . . almost an identcal build to mine. And the only problem i had was stalker, but the new beta drivers from nvidia fixed it.

zero_01 · 20 Jul 2007 at 21:31

BF2, Halo, Football Manager 2007 all work fine on My comp.

Specs
Intel Due Core E6300
1GB Ram
250GB Hard Drive
Nvidia 7900GS 256MB

Dont have a clue what drivers i am using but none of my games have crashed yet.

Margaret · 20 Jul 2007 at 22:20

Chronictank said:
I have problems getting various things to run because of Driver Signing, there is also the almost completely random burts of disk activity i have yet to find the source of :S, and ofc the performance drop from XP
Other than that i cant really complain

You can turn off driver signing iirc.

chaparral · 20 Jul 2007 at 23:16

If you have got your ram set to 1T settings,,try changing it to 2T settings...

My ram went set to 1T was causing me loads of problems in vista before i changed it to 2T..It was giving me all different kinds of errors & crashes all over the place with the 1T settings...

Jono8 · 21 Jul 2007 at 01:11

gareth170 said:
i have a high-end system too:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual-Core 4200+ @ 2.9ghz
4gb ddr800
2600xt ddr4
30" lcd monitor
vista home premium

i have no gaming issues too. every game i play in vista is fast. but yes when i benchmark in vista it is slower then xp but benchmarks are nothing really. the real world gaming performance is great in vista...

i would hardly call that high end.

Although all you guys that seem to have no problems do have 4gb of ram...maybe that anandtech article is right?

Noxis · 21 Jul 2007 at 09:44

Stupid question, has all your testing been with your CPU + other bits overclocked? I am pretty sure that what was 100% Orthos stable in WinXP is not stable in Vista. And thats not a Vista problem thats things not being quite as overclock stable as we thought.

Jono8 · 21 Jul 2007 at 12:28

Noxis said:
Stupid question, has all your testing been with your CPU + other bits overclocked? I am pretty sure that what was 100% Orthos stable in WinXP is not stable in Vista. And thats not a Vista problem thats things not being quite as overclock stable as we thought.

Yeh ive tried everything. tried putting everything back to stock clocks but to no avail. i have tried atitool artifact tester/orthos/memtest all with no errors, but the minute i fire up a game with either cards i just know it will eventually crash.

Noxis · 21 Jul 2007 at 15:03

Jono8 said:
Yeh ive tried everything. tried putting everything back to stock clocks but to no avail. i have tried atitool artifact tester/orthos/memtest all with no errors, but the minute i fire up a game with either cards i just know it will eventually crash.

Can I suggest you set everything at stock. Reinstall Vista, make sure its fully patched and start from there?