OK - Safari 5 - how do I do these things

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Right. Been using Safari 5 since the update,(and safari 4, since the mbp update) and there's a couple of things that really annoy me, I'll list them and would like to know if there's a fix. I'm using Safari as It's a pretty good browser, good OSX integration, Opera kinda sucks on OSX.


1. Pressing Back always seems to reload the page.

This is a major PITA when I've just submitted a form as it will resubmit the form data. I just want the browser to load the page from it's cache, as it was, before I went 'forward'. Opera does this. Pretty sure FireFox does this as well how do I make Safari do it? It's annoying as well if I click a forum topic, and see something else I wanted to click on, then I click back and it's been bumped off the page because safari has loaded the most recent version. If I want the most recent version of a page I'll click reload thank you very much.

2. New Tabs open beside the current tab, I want them either to open on the right of the tab, but 'away' from the tab, or to open right along at the end.

currently if I open tabs from a page called orig and have a second page called SECOND open it goes ORIG 5 4 3 2 1 SECOND I want either ORIG SECOND 1 2 3 4 5 or ORIG 1 2 3 4 5 SECOND How do I make Safari do this - it's driving me batty as after a few months I still go to the wrong tab. Especially since I use Opera and Firefox daily elsewhere

3. Make Tabs NOT scroll off the end, I want them to compress down in size when there is too many to show at once.

4. How do I navigate tabs using keyboard? I'm looking for somethign similar to Operas 1 and 2 keys

5. How do I change the location of where I want to save files, and can I set up default locations or action based on filetypes (i.e. I'd like to save torrents to my 'watch folder'

6. How can I find out the name of an image. In every browser for the last 10 years it's been a rightclick -> properties operation. Opera even gives you all the EXIF info as well.

7. I have a folder in my bookmarks containing some related websites, how can I access these bookmarks without going to Bookmarks->Show all Book marks? Can I not get a submenu folder in my bookmarks menu, or a drop down on the bar, like every other browser I've used since IE4/ Netscape 4

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Might have been a couple more, but these are the ones annoying me just now - please help me all you Mac OSX gurus.
 
1. It behaves how you describe for me, loaded from the cache (well, half the time at any rate). Page caching was supposed to much better in safari 5 and it is, but still not good enough imo.

2. I think you're stuck with the default behaviour, although it might be possible to change with an extension, don't know if anyones written one for this particular problem though (maybe I'll have a bash, shouldn't be that hard).

3. It bugs me too but I've learned to live with it since without favicons there's little to identify which tab is which anyway if they're too small.

4. By default it's ctrl+tab to move right through tabs, and ctrl+shift+tab to go left. Not the nicest for sure (I'd prefer how opera does it). Not sure if there's any way to change them though.

5. If you go into the preferences you can choose a default folder to save downloads, but you can't have it be different per file type. However, you could make a folder action using automator that moves torrent files to one place, pictures to another etc etc.

6. No idea for this one.

7. You can move the folder into the bookmark bar folder and then it will be readily available underneath the address field.

Hope some of that helps.
 
Hi thanks for the reply. I actually posted this on macrumours as well. I found an addon called Glims that resolves a couple of issues (, and . to change tabs, tab open order) but to be honest, I'm going to seriously consider some alternate options I think. Number 1 is the biggest problem for me. It's like using internet explorer from the mid nineties. Also the tabs not compressing enough is pretty damn annoying.

Put it this way - there's nothing in Safari that I can think of that makes me want to stay with it, that I can think of just now. I'm sure some of the other browsers have j ust as good osx integration.

Reading about a bit, it seems there's lots of people with issues with safari, and there's also a lot of browser choice on the mac as well. So I'll see : )


http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=960860


ps, any good tips on how to do a 'folder action using automator?'
 
I know what you mean about Safari. It was my browser of choice up until chrome came out for osx, I've not looked back since, except for developing websites and what-not.

I did have a link to a rather awesome youtube vid where a guy walked you through making one, but sadly it doesn't seem to be up anymore :( There's one here, where a guy does a super quick demonstration but it's not that great.

If you fire up automator you'll probably be able to figure a lot of it out in 10-20 mins. It's just a case of dragging and dropping actions and what-not, ie. drag in a filter finder items action, tell it to look for .torrent files, then drag in a move finder items action underneath etc etc. There's no programming or anything needed (unless you want to go more advanced of course).
 
Given that Firefox, Opera and Chrome are all available on Mac, there's really no excuse for using Safari, especially if you are having issues with it. Use something else, if they sort the bugs then return later.
 
Agree with that all the answers above are correct and I think for 6) only firefox can have that plugin or is at least one browser which can. ;)
 
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