Old P3 motherboard works with 128mb of ram but fails with 256mb of RAM

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Anyone else had this? It's rather strange...

It also give 1 long beep followed by 3 short beeps when I turn it on...

How can I fix this?
 
assuming your talking about swapping a single 128mb stick with a 256mb one: its pretty normal,

not all chipsets back then supported higher capacity sticks, or even double sided sticks.
there were also a lot of "shady" manufacturers using double density chips, intended only for ECC server ram on non ecc sticks (which should never have had double density modules) - something down to the way desktop chipsets addressed the ram; often such sticks were sold with a compatibility list that mostly consisted of via and a few sis chipsets.

if you are lucky, you just see half the capacity you would expect, unlucky and it just dont work.

you can try increasing the chipset voltage and loosening timings, sometimes reducing the FSB would help also, if you have the options in bios (or, gasp, onboard jumpers). else, you might try digging up the boards manual and checking its compatibility list. you might well find that the board was only every designed with 128mb in mind!

best of luck
 
Sounds like you have a dodgy stick of memory, perhaps buy, borrow or steal some more to try?

EDIT: I have 2 sticks of old PC 133 SDRAM (256mb each) sitting here if you're interested?
I've tried 2 different sticks, both just give me beep codes! :(
assuming your talking about swapping a single 128mb stick with a 256mb one: its pretty normal,

not all chipsets back then supported higher capacity sticks, or even double sided sticks.
there were also a lot of "shady" manufacturers using double density chips, intended only for ECC server ram on non ecc sticks (which should never have had double density modules) - something down to the way desktop chipsets addressed the ram; often such sticks were sold with a compatibility list that mostly consisted of via and a few sis chipsets.

if you are lucky, you just see half the capacity you would expect, unlucky and it just dont work.

you can try increasing the chipset voltage and loosening timings, sometimes reducing the FSB would help also, if you have the options in bios (or, gasp, onboard jumpers). else, you might try digging up the boards manual and checking its compatibility list. you might well find that the board was only every designed with 128mb in mind!

best of luck
Excellent info, thanks. After clearing the BIOS, I've managed to get it to POST, but it only sees 128mb out of 256mb.

Not the end of the world, as I had 64mb sticks in there before. I'll have a look for a BIOS update if I can, and I'll try digging out the manual and experimenting with settings. Luckily I can switch from 100mhz fsb to 133 with no jumpers involved, but there's still a coulple of jumpers lurking!
 
Had this happen with a QDI socket 370 board, turned out a certain slot had to be populated first. Any idea what chipset\model it is?
 
Had this happen with a QDI socket 370 board, turned out a certain slot had to be populated first. Any idea what chipset\model it is?
I've just pulled the side off, and there's a QDI sticker in the case (Saying QDI Legend), so I'm guessing I'm dealing with a QDI board....

It's socket 370, and has an Intel chipset... I can't see a model name silkscreened on the PCB however....

The board has 3 slots, and I've got:

Slot 1) 128mb stick
Slot 2) 256mb stick
Slot 2) 256mb stick

Yet the board only sees 384mb of ram...

Is it worth swapping some of the sticks around?

I tried to google QDI and only got the Croydon council website!
 
I've just pulled the side off, and there's a QDI sticker in the case (Saying QDI Legend), so I'm guessing I'm dealing with a QDI board....

It's socket 370, and has an Intel chipset... I can't see a model name silkscreened on the PCB however....

The board has 3 slots, and I've got:

Slot 1) 128mb stick
Slot 2) 256mb stick
Slot 2) 256mb stick

Yet the board only sees 384mb of ram...

Is it worth swapping some of the sticks around?

I tried to google QDI and only got the Croydon council website!

www.qdigrp.com/qdisite/eng/index.htm

Does the BIOS have any details? Sounds like its older than the chipsets I've used...
 
www.qdigrp.com/qdisite/eng/index.htm

Does the BIOS have any details? Sounds like its older than the chipsets I've used...
Err, I clicked the link, and I got this:
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Is this the right site?

I think I managed to find out what board it is:
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Turns out it's a Billiox 9! :D
 
Err, I clicked the link, and I got this:

Is this the right site?

Have a read of this: http://www.stopbadware.org/home/rev.../www.qdigrp.com/qdisite/eng/support/d_zx9.htm

Works fine if I press ignore, all the product\driver pages seem normal. Here:

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I think I managed to find out what board it is:

Turns out it's a Billiox 9! :D

Doesn't match anything I can find on QDI's own site. However there is a similarly named model "BrillianX 9" which uses Intel's 440BX chipset. According to the latest BIOS information it supports 100FSB Coppermine core CPUs to 1.2Ghz. PDF manual downloads page is dead now unfortunately so I can't tell you more than that.
 
Thanks, I was a little concerned about the whole attack site thing, but I'm on another machine now which is loaded to the gills with AV software, and it works fine if I click ignore. :)

By the looks of it, it is the Brillian-X board, I'll flash the newest BIOS and see if this allow me to use all 640mb of ram. :)
 
Thanks, I was a little concerned about the whole attack site thing, but I'm on another machine now which is loaded to the gills with AV software, and it works fine if I click ignore. :)

By the looks of it, it is the Brillian-X board, I'll flash the newest BIOS and see if this allow me to use all 640mb of ram. :)

Careful with the BIOS flashing, this is old-skool DOS stuff without the fancy backup chips of today :p
 
Careful with the BIOS flashing, this is old-skool DOS stuff without the fancy backup chips of today :p
My first PC was a 486 with 8mb of RAM, so I know my way around DOS ;)

AWD-flash refused to work, but I tried out UNIflash and it worked perfectly, now running the latest BIOS but still only 384mb of ram on the startup screen. I've given up for now, as it's almost 3am and I don't want to become nocturnal. I'll try swapping the sticks around tomorrow...
 
My first PC was a 486 with 8mb of RAM, so I know my way around DOS ;)

AWD-flash refused to work, but I tried out UNIflash and it worked perfectly, now running the latest BIOS but still only 384mb of ram on the startup screen. I've given up for now, as it's almost 3am and I don't want to become nocturnal. I'll try swapping the sticks around tomorrow...

Not tried more than 256MB (2x128) in a 440BX board myself, and that was 10 years ago so I can't remember if its a chipset limitation :p
 
Not tried more than 256MB (2x128) in a 440BX board myself, and that was 10 years ago so I can't remember if its a chipset limitation :p
After a little experimentation and luck, I found another 2 256mb sticks that seemed to work better, they were double sided instead of single sided and these appear to work! I've now got 640mb of ram, awesome :D
 
After a little experimentation and luck, I found another 2 256mb sticks that seemed to work better, they were double sided instead of single sided and these appear to work! I've now got 640mb of ram, awesome :D

Yeah, seems like a memory controller limitation. Still, you got it working in the end :) :p
 
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