Old pc won't boot.

Joe42

Joe42

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Got an old celeron 433 machine that won't boot and i could do with some help troubleshooting.
Its been working fine but wouldn't boot one day. No monitor signal output at all and no beep codes.

Specs:
-Celeron 433 socket 370
-Msi 6159 board (manual here)
-Seagate 10gb harddisk
-Cd drive
-Old psu
-network card
-Onboard graphics

Steps taken:
-Reset cmos
-Removed betwork card
-Plugged in mb speaker to try an get beep codes
-reversed polarity of speaker and still no beep codes
-Unplugged psu, jump started it and tested voltages. all ok.
-Reseated ram
-Plugged in keyboard
-Checked monitor plug for bent pins

Symptoms:
-Harddisk spins up ok.
-No led's on on anything, thats normal.
-Monitor displays 'no signal' message.
-No beep code

Only thing i haven't tried is plugging in a different graphics card, i don't have a spare. Is this likely to be due to the onboard graphics dieing, is it worth me getting hold of one?

Thanks for your help.
 
Hey i won't have you dissing my machine!
It does 20-30 points per day for our folding at home team when it works!

I know most people are going to say bin it, but i can't bear to do that. I want to replace whatever needs replacing and get it folding again. It made a nice little file server too. If its the board, i'll get a new one off ebay for a few quid.

Just need to know whats wrong?

Its good troubleshooting practice aswell. :)
 
I can and i will. I don't suppose theres any way to tell if its that?
I can feel the chip and its not getting overly hot, which would be a sign to look for if it had died.
 
It lives. Should have tried that first i suppose. :p

i'll see if i can get the onboard to work, if not i'll have to nab a pci graphics card off fleabay.

Thanks for your help guys, i'll have it up and folding again asap.
 
Another quick question.

I have an option in the bios for 'clock generator for dimm/pci slot enabled/disabled'

Is this my option to enable locks so it won't corrupt the harddisk if i try to overclock?
 
TBH, I've never had a single corruption on any of my drives, when overclocked - and I'll say that for my 486, which I pushed from 33FSB to 40. :o;)
 
I have, last time i tried it with this board.

And that option was disabled. Any board without locks is liable to cause problems when overclocked and this particular one also overclocks the ide bus.

So will this option fix that, or shall i get an old disk, bung windows on it and see what happens?
 
In control panel it says 'device will not start' for the onboard graphics. Does this suggest its dead?
 
Joe42 said:
In control panel it says 'device will not start' for the onboard graphics. Does this suggest its dead?
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I would say most definately but to say for certian reinstall the driver and see if there are any IRQ conflicts

Stelly
 
Well i just uninstalled it from the control panel with the intention of running scan for new hardware after a reboot and reinstalling it, and the machine won't boot again.

I had put the network card back in, so i've taken it out again, reseated the graphics card, tried it in a different slot, checked that both the onboard and the graphics card are not outputting anything, reset the cmos.
Has it killed my graphics card?
 
Joe42 said:
Well i just uninstalled it from the control panel with the intention of running scan for new hardware after a reboot and reinstalling it, and the machine won't boot again.

I had put the network card back in, so i've taken it out again, reseated the graphics card, tried it in a different slot, checked that both the onboard and the graphics card are not outputting anything, reset the cmos.
Has it killed my graphics card?
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:confused: Anyone got any ideas??

Stelly
 
I put the graphics card in another machine and its not dead.
So why did it suddenly stop working in the original pc?
Even after i reset the cmos.
 
Is there a jumper anywhere on the motherboard, to disable the onboard graphics/vga?

If not, there will be on option in the BIOS...if/when you get in. ;)
 
I did get in. Then it died again. I reset the cmos tho.

I'll have a look through the manual for a jumper. Thanks for the suggestion. :)
 
Hmm no jumper. Didn't see anything in the bios either to disable it.

I can't understand why it wouldn't boot, suggests that it may have other problems... all the caps are ok.

I need the pci graphics card for another machien so i'll return to troubleshooting this one at a later date.
 
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