OMG i give up ! 580

GJ02 · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:25

Just taken delivery of my evga 580
this thing wont clock beyond 830 ! im mean WTF ???
thats with max volts too as ive worked my way up

icehot666 · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:28

Sounds like you were expecting to be guaranteed of a better overclock??

RavenXXX2 · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:29

wow that is a bad clocker, temps OK? What you using to test for stability?

Scougar · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:29

How many 580's is this so far?

Either your incredibly unlucky with the cards your getting or something else is going on. Is it throttling perhaps, not a power issue looking at your sig.

ZeniTimes · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:31

That's a poor overclock. I've had my EGVA 480 up to 800 with no voltage increase..... not that it will make you feel any better...

Marine-RX179 · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:35

That's very unlucky...must be a poor core

I hope the MSI 5850 Twin FrozeR I pre-ordered doesn't end up with a poor core as well...

Send it back under DSR and try your luck again on hoping to get a card with a better core? If lightning hit the same place twice, then I really don't know what to say...

straxusii · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:40

When DSR goes bad

RedStarRiot · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:40

Scougar said:
How many 580's is this so far?

Either your incredibly unlucky with the cards your getting or something else is going on. Is it throttling perhaps, not a power issue looking at your sig.

I presume the MSI he had was a poor overclocker as well then? Also thought you were going for 2 6950's or waiting for the 6990 GJ02

GJ02 · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:42

at the mo selling the lot is crossing my mind !
i sold the MSI lost £15 and was gonna see what AMD brought,
seen what they brought and decided on another 580
how exactly does DSR work

wow that is a bad clocker, temps OK? What you using to test for stability?

tell me about it !, 76 is the highest temps go and i cant get half way thru heaven or vantage at 830 with max volts

Amidar · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:47

That does seem bad, i'm running my evga 580 @ 850mhz core on default volts not tried it any higher.

RavenXXX2 · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:48

GJ02 said:
at the mo selling the lot is crossing my mind !
i sold the MSI lost £15 and was gonna see what AMD brought,
seen what they brought and decided on another 580
how exactly does DSR work

tell me about it !, 76 is the highest temps go and i cant get half way thru heaven or vantage at 830 with max volts

Get shot of it, DSR it.

icehot666 · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:51

RavenXXX2 said:
Get shot of it, DSR it.

DSR is only applicable for items which have been unopened and unused (legally speaking)

kmufc77 · 17 Dec 2010 at 15:58

icehot666 said:
DSR is only applicable for items which have been unopened and unused (legally speaking)

Wrong,ive sent many items back ocuk in particular where items have been opened and used,every time i either get refunded or replaced.

GJ02 · 17 Dec 2010 at 16:00

good to know
DSR has been places
jesus this must be the shortest lived 580 in history
im going off to cry now !

Nice, real nice Comeon man, shouldn't really be saying that. ?

he has changed the name of the supplier, or are you joking ? lol

icehot666 · 17 Dec 2010 at 16:07

Just cos you've been able to get away with it or the individual companies policies allow you to return opened items, doesn't mean the law allows that - I deal with that kind of thing all the time at work - legally if they said no you wouldn't have a leg to stand on, it's all dependant on the companies policies.

Broken Hope · 17 Dec 2010 at 16:12

icehot666 said:
Just cos you've been able to get away with it or the individual companies policies allow you to return opened items, doesn't mean the law allows that - I deal with that kind of thing all the time at work - legally if they said no you wouldn't have a leg to stand on, it's all dependant on the companies policies.

The whole point of the DSR is that you can inspect and try the item the same way you would in a shop, which is pretty hard to do if you can't open the item.

From the official PDF http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/general/oft698.pdf

Can I insist that consumers who cancel an order within the
cancellation period return the goods as new or in their
original packaging?

3.58 No. Consumers are under a duty to take reasonable care of the goods
while in their possession as discussed in paragraph 3.44. The DSRs
allow consumers to examine goods they have ordered as they would
in a shop. If that requires opening the packaging and trying out the
goods then they have not breached their duty to take reasonable
care of the goods. In these circumstances you cannot insist that
consumers return the goods as new or in their original packaging.
You may ask consumers to return goods with the original packaging,
but you cannot insist on this. In the case of goods such as earrings
that have hygiene seals, you may require consumers to exercise
reasonable care by not removing the seals when examining them.

Now someone returning an item because it is a poor overclocker IMO hasn't taken reasonable care of the goods and shouldn't be allowed to return the item under the DSR.

icehot666 · 17 Dec 2010 at 16:24

Broken Hope said:
The whole point of the DSR is that you can inspect and try the item the same way you would in a shop, which is pretty hard to do if you can't open the item.

From the official PDF http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/general/oft698.pdf

Now someone returning an item because it is a poor overclocker IMO hasn't taken reasonable care of the goods and shouldn't be allowed to return the item under the DSR.

Well that's interesting, ok I admit I was wrong on that point, it doesn't let you use the item though (as you say)... But thanks for pointing that out, I can think of several cases that is actually going to help me out on - where companies say you can't return items based on box seals being broken! Appreciate it!

Marine-RX179 · 17 Dec 2010 at 16:49

Broken Hope said:
The whole point of the DSR is that you can inspect and try the item the same way you would in a shop, which is pretty hard to do if you can't open the item.

From the official PDF http://www.oft.gov.uk/shared_oft/business_leaflets/general/oft698.pdf

Now someone returning an item because it is a poor overclocker IMO hasn't taken reasonable care of the goods and shouldn't be allowed to return the item under the DSR.

I don't think that's what it means. What "hasn't taken reasonable care of the goods" mean is the returning an item in a state that's poorer in condition than the state that the customer received it. Testing overclock on safe voltage level does not really worsen the condition of the card, so that should fall under under "taken reasonable care of the goods"; now if someone was using some crazy amount of voltage, then it is "hasn't taken reasonable care of the goods", because that has high chance of damaging the card.

Triggaaar · 17 Dec 2010 at 16:55

RavenXXX2 said:
I have sent gear opened and used back under DSR, recently sent a roccat cave headset back to scam for a full refund.

Oh the irony :rolleyes:

icehot666 · 17 Dec 2010 at 16:56

The problem with regulations like that is that it's obvious that the whole thing is down to interpretation which also means that if it ever came to it, it's down to a judge to decide what's reasonable...