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I don’t play games, rarely edit videos but do a fair bit of graphic design and editing. I am specifying a new Pc based around a Ryzen 7600X, Asus Tuf 650 Mbd , 32Gb 4800 ram and an M2 drive. Monitor is a 34” Dell ultra wide. Originally I planned to add a low end graphics card but given my intended use I’ve decided to see how I get on with the onboard gpu only. I’d welcome thoughts on this strategy.
 
Motherboard choice aside, try the onboard GPU first to see how you get on as it may be fine for your use case.

The iGPU isn't the strongest but will give you acceleration in some of the filters and such in Photoshop for example (if that is what you will be using). A dedicated card will be improve performance but its hard to tell by how much as you have not said what apps you are using, image types, sizing, etc.
 
I don’t play games, rarely edit videos but do a fair bit of graphic design and editing. I am specifying a new Pc based around a Ryzen 7600X, Asus Tuf 650 Mbd , 32Gb 4800 ram and an M2 drive. Monitor is a 34” Dell ultra wide. Originally I planned to add a low end graphics card but given my intended use I’ve decided to see how I get on with the onboard gpu only. I’d welcome thoughts on this strategy.
Do you even need all that lot?

I recently needed a PC for multimedia playback, streaming and office work. Bought a little Beelink mini-PC with the new Intel N100 chip in it. Entire PC was only £200 delivered (16GB ram, 512GB storage.) That's less than the cost of a 7600X. It supports two simultaneous 4k60 displays from the Intel onboard graphics. Even came with a Win11 Pro license. I installed Affinity Photo on it and was amazed by just how fast it was; I sat there editing photos for a couple of hours with tons of filters and it worked just fine. Also runs Libre Office apps just fine too.

Tbh, if you are buying a PC for non-gaming use, it's surprising just how fast even cheap, humble little boxes the size of a pack of butter have got. The N100 is quad-core @ 3.4GHz, which with the Intel onboard graphics is overkill for most tasks. You can buy something with even more power for not much more cash. Food for thought before you maybe buy more than you actually need.
 
but do a fair bit of graphic design and editing

Are we talking 2D or 3D? I'd imagine 2D viewports should be fine in the majority of apps, but 3D ones might lag a bit, depending on what you're doing. You can always add a graphics card later though, so no harm in trying it out.
 
Do you even need all that lot?

I recently needed a PC for multimedia playback, streaming and office work. Bought a little Beelink mini-PC with the new Intel N100 chip in it. Entire PC was only £200 delivered (16GB ram, 512GB storage.) That's less than the cost of a 7600X. It supports two simultaneous 4k60 displays from the Intel onboard graphics. Even came with a Win11 Pro license. I installed Affinity Photo on it and was amazed by just how fast it was; I sat there editing photos for a couple of hours with tons of filters and it worked just fine. Also runs Libre Office apps just fine too.

Tbh, if you are buying a PC for non-gaming use, it's surprising just how fast even cheap, humble little boxes the size of a pack of butter have got. The N100 is quad-core @ 3.4GHz, which with the Intel onboard graphics is overkill for most tasks. You can buy something with even more power for not much more cash. Food for thought before you maybe buy more than you actually need.
Thanks but I think I am going to need a bit more oomph
 
Are we talking 2D or 3D? I'd imagine 2D viewports should be fine in the majority of apps, but 3D ones might lag a bit, depending on what you're doing. You can always add a graphics card later though, so no harm in trying it out.
Layout of magazines with also vector and bitmap design.
 
Thanks but I prefer a traditional sized case and format. I am still intrigued as to what the problem is with an Asus motherboard???
Well there was the recent fiasco
Where their bios was over voting the soc
And killing cpus and motherboard
That was bad enough
But the initial reaction from asus
Is what really ###### people off
They released a beta bios to fix a problem of their making
And told people if you use the beta bios
To fix our problem
You will be voiding your warranty

Things go wrong sometimes
But how a company responds to an issue
Carries a lot of weight
And response from asus was about the worst thing
They possibly could have done to customers
 
Not me talking nonsense these days lol
I have always talked nonsense lol
Should say am actually using a top end asus board
And love the board
My last board was gigabyte
And it was a PITA
Doesn't really matter which manufacturer you name
Some people will have had a board that was
Faulty or broke etc
But how companies deal with problems is important

Plus some people may say asus shove ROG on something
And whack the price up
There are certainly asus die hards who will pay extra
For it just because it says ROG
Even if its a hat,key ring etc there are people who must have
one of everything that says ROG
 
Well there was the recent fiasco
Where their bios was over voting the soc
And killing cpus and motherboard
That was bad enough
But the initial reaction from asus
Is what really ###### people off
They released a beta bios to fix a problem of their making
And told people if you use the beta bios
To fix our problem
You will be voiding your warranty

Things go wrong sometimes
But how a company responds to an issue
Carries a lot of weight
And response from asus was about the worst thing
They possibly could have done to customers
Thanks for that - at least I now know the reason for the -ve comment.
 
Thanks for that - at least I now know the reason for the -ve comment.

If you want to know the whole story, GN has several videos on it:


To be fair, it wasn't only Asus that overvolted the soc, but Asus have historically had overvolt issues with CPUs and seemed to be the worst culprit.

GN seem to consider the issue addressed now, if you run an updated BIOS, but the truth is that we don't actually know if any AM5 CPUs (especially the X3D) are going to be affected long-term, so I don't blame you for buying 4800 memory which avoids/lessens the overvolt that results from enabling XMP/EXPO.
 
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