Indeed. If anyone is truly worried about their personal freedom, look to the wider world, not just the internet.
Online freedom bye bye.......?
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Indeed. If anyone is truly worried about their personal freedom, look to the wider world, not just the internet.
Soldato
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this is less clear. stealing is taking someone from someone so they dont have it. downloading is more like cloning and doesnt always mean a lost sale.
if my V+ doesnt record and episode i download it. how is the company losing out?
i understand that many people take the pee but how many of them would have bought the dvd/album etc in the first place? arent most 'pirates' just kids. they dont have infinite money and i cant blame them. back in the 80s we all used to copy cassettes. did the record companies crumble? games companies are making more cash than ever. hollywood is doing fine. the fact that major record labels owe their own artists billions due to them letting their artists works get on compilation cds and not paying the artist. pot/kettle?!
what annoys me is people earning a decent wage and still pirating. i dont download anything dodgy as i can afford to buy it and i support the directors and artists i like.
It's a slippery slope when they try to introduce all these restricting laws under the excuse of protecting people and stamping out bad behaviour etc. But, at what cost?
They highlight the issues, add a bit of fear in for good measure to cause the reactions they want and then offer the solutions to those supposed issues.
Bit-by-bit these laws are introduced so as not to startle people, and before you know it, we're up bob creek without a paddle.
It's the same with CCTV being absolutely everywhere now, but, I think they're getting a bit desperate these days and trying to push things through too fast, which is causing more people to wake up; take all these new internet laws they're introducing (or trying to) in the states for example - it's kicking off now.
They highlight the issues, add a bit of fear in for good measure to cause the reactions they want and then offer the solutions to those supposed issues.
Bit-by-bit these laws are introduced so as not to startle people, and before you know it, we're up bob creek without a paddle.
It's the same with CCTV being absolutely everywhere now, but, I think they're getting a bit desperate these days and trying to push things through too fast, which is causing more people to wake up; take all these new internet laws they're introducing (or trying to) in the states for example - it's kicking off now.
So what? The difference is that no one is being forced onto the internet and have no position to complain. If you dont like what you see go offline.
Two things should be reuglated on the internet, cp/cruelty, ap/cruelty everything else is fair game. Yes the internet has gone down hill by people (I remember the early 2000's when you hardly got trolling).
If pirating is such a big problem why doesn't the companies compete against it by lowering prices? The free market has deemed that people would rather pirate then pay because it's too much, so adjust your prices instead of crying foul play.
The government see the internet as another thing to control.
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Caporegime
On a serious note, how will this affect mumsnet? They'd better not clamp down on that 
Soldato
Stealing is taking something without consent.
IPR and copyrights are there to avoid people making copies without consent. I'm sure it's called IP theft and copyright theft.
I wouldn't say that most pirates are kids now it's hard to know.
I'm not talking about the odd episode of Star Trek here I'm talking about everything they own be it films (not even in the cinema here), console games, pc games, dvds, even books and audio books.
What gives people the right to think this is acceptable and many clearly think it is. I'm not in the camp of the record industry at all however sites that allow uploads and don't actively self police must face the consequences.
This is the free market at work, reduce prices = less pirating.
Caporegime
BEEP! Going to have to ask for a source for that one.
Man of Honour
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[FnG]magnolia;21826285 said:
Well with Steam, they have proved that if you sell games really cheap, you sell a ridiculous amount and make more profit(over the same time, not per unit). Of course you can't prove this causes less pirating, but if definitely has more sales, so maybe it does.
Reminds me of Alan Sugar's reasoning for not getting involved with comupter games. The little goblin assumed everyone would just copy them so he stuck with selling his (garbage) hardware.
Caporegime
Because your opinion is not substantiated without at least one.
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Because whilst your basic assumption is correct (Because even if a lower price leads to only 1 person a million giving up pirating it makes your statement correct) you are implying generally that piracy is only as a result of excessive price, which is a far too simplistic and generalistic view to take.
The internet is the biggest threat of freedom to the Dictators.
if it was up to them they could go a head and switch it off.
Caporegime
Because some people want everything for free, regardless of how cheap it is to obtain legally?
And the rest who pirate?