Opera web devs the end is nigh!

I'm not entirely sure just yet, but from reading around its better for DOM stuff, as it shows up-to-date content, not just inital stuff. So you can see whats going one with AJAX :) Although its lacking on the CSS front as of now, thats definately more of a reason not to use it...

TBH its not perfect yet, and as they mention this is a very early release, i'm posting it as more of a "one to watch". Opera ASA know what they're doing, and i'm sure they'll make a good job of this. This is just the beginning :)
 
LeperousDust said:
I'm not entirely sure just yet, but from reading around its better for DOM stuff, as it shows up-to-date content, not just inital stuff. So you can see whats going one with AJAX :) Although its lacking on the CSS front as of now, thats definately more of a reason not to use it...

TBH its not perfect yet, and as they mention this is a very early release, i'm posting it as more of a "one to watch". Opera ASA know what they're doing, and i'm sure they'll make a good job of this. This is just the beginning :)
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Reading the bumpf for the alpha release we will be able to edit CSS and DOM in the future? Does the FF DOM inspector allow us to do that?
 
I'm very impressed with the speed at which Opera started up, it starts even faster than Internet Explorer and it's not even superfetched in Vista for me yet :)
 
Sounds (and looks) a lot like Firebug to me.
As a related note, the DOM inspector won't be shipped with Firefox from version 3. If you want it, you'll have to go to AMO.
 
Craig321 said:
Hmmmm, maybe I'll give it a go & see how I get on. If I miss Firefox too much I'm going back :p
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Once you pop you'll never stop! :o
tolien said:
Sounds (and looks) a lot like Firebug to me.
As a related note, the DOM inspector won't be shipped with Firefox from version 3. If you want it, you'll have to go to AMO.
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Surely Opera want their own version of that to try and attract more people to Opera.

So Mozilla are making the DOM inspector a downloadable extension? Hmm interesting.
 
LeperousDust said:
I'm not entirely sure just yet, but from reading around its better for DOM stuff, as it shows up-to-date content, not just inital stuff. So you can see whats going one with AJAX :) Although its lacking on the CSS front as of now, thats definately more of a reason not to use it...

TBH its not perfect yet, and as they mention this is a very early release, i'm posting it as more of a "one to watch". Opera ASA know what they're doing, and i'm sure they'll make a good job of this. This is just the beginning :)
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Thanks, sounds cool :)
 
Firebug does the whole AJAX while you watch thing too.

MarcLister said:
Surely Opera want their own version of that to try and attract more people to Opera.
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There's a version of Firebug for IE as well, and IE 8 has some tool which resembles it as well. Firebug's a popular addon. :)

So Mozilla are making the DOM inspector a downloadable extension? Hmm interesting.
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Previously, it was buried in the Custom Installation options so this is an improvement. There was some talk of integrating Firebug, but it never happened.
 
tolien said:
There's a version of Firebug for IE as well, and IE 8 has some tool with it as well. Firebug's a popular addon. :)
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Didn't know that. Course I'd never develop with IE. Make sure it works with IE sure but actually develop in IE? No way Jose. :p

tolien said:
Previously, it was buried in the Custom Installation options so this is an improvement. There was some talk of integrating Firebug, but it never happened.
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Oooh. But then surely integrating Firebug would break that Mozilla rule of a light download that can be beefed up with whatever extensions a user wants?
 
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