Opinions on Samsung's 2021 Neo QLED's or other QLED's

[Darujhistan]

I had thought about going with a Phillips (48") OLED, but I can't spend the next 5-6 years worrying about burn-in, it really put me off, especially as I burned in a Plasma a few years ago by leaving the YT menu on all night.

I watch a ton of SSN and sports with logo's on the screen, not so much TV/movies, and the QLED looks a good bet for gaming too.

Don't need more than 50", looking at spending around 1K.

 

[Darujhistan]

All the apps and usb media player will have a screen saver after a few mins on LG oleds.

Though yes, clumsy people should stay away from Oleds.

What's that got to do with my question?

I don't want to babysit a TV, or worry about the potential of burn-in, that seems very reasonable to me. Don't get upset because someone doesn't want an OLED for very valid reasons. Clumsy? I fell asleep with the TV on, that's very easy to do. One nights sleep shouldn't lead to a wrecked TV.

 

[Darujhistan]

A mate got the 65in version a few months back .. stunning picture!
https://www.richersounds.com/samsung-qe50qn94a.html

That's the one I checked out first, I can def stretch the budget that far. It's going to be a massive step up from my 9 year old TV!

 

[Darujhistan]

Yeah, i have got an 8 year old top of range Sony, and the Neo QLED blows it away ... need to start saving and wouldn't hesitate buying the Samsung.

The Samsung I've got was mid range at best IIRC, so it should be night and day. It's been flawless but fancied an upgrade.

 

[Darujhistan]

Tad cheaper at Sevenoaks, getting tempted to push the button meself!
https://www.sevenoakssoundandvision.co.uk/p-51917-samsung-qe50qn94a-50-4k-uhd-neo-qled-tv.aspx

Sadly OOS anywhere near me (Peak District).

 

[Darujhistan]

The Oled worshippers can’t help themselves. They blurt out garbage at every opportunity.

I ended up with a Q80T for my gaming TV due to the nature of its use and the fact I don’t want to babysit it. Colours are vibrant and the blacks are incredibly good. I suspect the newer Samsung’s are even better. You won’t be disappointed. The visual gain of an Oled isn’t worth the risk of health bars and the like burning in for me.

I ordered an OLED and then cancelled it, I want to enjoy my TV not worry about it, and stuff like SSN is always on. Yeah that was the copnclusion I came to, the visial gain is not worth the potential downside.

 

[Darujhistan]

You don't have to babysit newer OLEDs.

What happened with you and your old Plasma couldn't happen with modern OLEDs, the screen saver comes in after so long with out any user input and it turns itself off after a while. There are logo dimmers and pixel shifters etc. Unless of course you deliberately go into the menus and disable all the power saving and protection features.

The only reason I am saying this is because you watch sports a lot. Sports looks so good on OLED. I watch football and Basketball a lot and they look fantastic. I compared a Samsung q90A(my brothers) and CX OLED. We both preferred the OLED.

Which leads me to your Question. Are the Samsung Qled Tv's any good. My brother is happy with his. And you will probably be very happy with yours if you buy one. Just be aware, Like the previous poster says, reflections can be a problem.

The fact the technology even has to exist to prevent OLED burn-in tells me there's still an issue. As I have said I'm not spending the next 5-6 years babysitting my TV which I would be doing with an OLED and I would be worrying about burn-in - that's not a fun experience for me. If they didn't have burn in I would have bought one, without hesistation. I'm not worried about reflections where it's situated and should a problem arise that's what blinds are for.

When burn-in is elimated from OLED's i'll buy one, until then I'm not taking that risk, i'm also not someone who is going to ruin his own TV experience like those on the AV forums clearly have obsessing over every detail of every screen and image until they're not satisfied with anything.



I'm coming from an 9 year old mid range TV, it's going to be an amazing upgrade whatever I buy.

 

[Darujhistan]

I would always direct someone to an OLED tv but totally understand why your hesitant. If reflections aren’t an issue I would hang fire for a few months, as the new Sony Flagship LCD’s the ZK9 and the X95K are released with MiniLED, and Sony are also re implementing the backlight master drive system last used on the ZD9(probably the best LCD ever made and still superior picture quality wise to any LCD that currently available and closest to OLED black levels). This mixed with miniLED should produce some very impressive results as Sonys local dimming algorithm is head and shoulders above anyone else, add to that Sonys picture quality and scaling is superior to any other manufacturer, that’s the direction I would go.
If you have waited 9 years a few more months won’t make much of a difference.

Yeah, but brand new TV's come at brand new prices, I'm really looking at buying nowish while there's still stock, for example one TV I looked at launched £1800, now down to £1200.

 

[Darujhistan]

Absolutely fair enough mate I would still look at Sony though even for the 2021 models

Yeah, I am doing, just been to Curry's to check out QLED V OLED - yep there's no doubt it is better, more than I expected, watched a football game and Dr Strange die by side, spoke to LG rep at length about burn in (yes bound to be biased), but assuming I'm convinced...ideally looking at 50" could do either 48" or 55" at a push (it's not going to be wall hung but in a corner) - so many options...would prefer HDMI 2.1 ideally.

 

[Darujhistan]

I've been eyeing up the Samsung 94A after spending a long time looking for something very similar to yourself. I too also would like OLED, but the reality is i watch content with static images, this includes PC use and gaming. Having to worry, or mess about with potential warranty claims with extended burn-in cover isn't favourable.

All the higher end TVs around ~£1k at 50" will get you HDMI 2.1 it seems, but take into account that you might not need more than 1x 2.1 port during your TV's life. This is why i ruled out the flagship Samsung 95A because that's the one that comes with 4x, and the others only come with 1x. The VRR for gaming may be a concern for you, which is where the Sony's may not be favourable, they don't have it still, and people have been waiting a long time it seems with previous models still not getting the support. In regards to reflections, the LG C1 OLED is supposed to be great with reflections, but then it suffers by being darker in a lighter room than the QLEDs, they score near the same on rtings. Rtings also give a favourable results with out of the box colour for the higher end Samsungs.

This is a nice video, and shows very positives for the Samsung 94A. Whilst the 95A is actually the tested model, there isn't much between them so it's more of a guidance to how the flagships of differing technologies can compete.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCSAdW3Wejk

I had considered having 2x TVs, but that's not ideal for many reasons. Also buying cheaper now, then grabbing another equal model cheaply at a later date, but again it's not ideal.

Realistic alternatives are the J, but it lacks VRR, but is cheaper. But there may be cashback deals about to save a few quid.
The Panasonic JX940B, again cheaper than the Samsung, however it's not a full array backlit screen, and it's an IPS panel. So, and this is a big may, may be better for gaming, sometimes. Reviews for this are non-existent.
The LG "miniLEDs" (nano) aren't worth looking at from what i can tell.

Hope that helps. However let's be realistic, which i can't get through my head still, whatever we buy at the £1k mark will be stunning after using old tech.

In regards to the above post, the X95J is literally the cost of a C1 and X90J combined. This is where my dual TV thoughts came into it.

Yeah Samsung 94A 50 ", it does tick every box, barring being OLED, 55" i've decided s too big for the corner space I have allocated for it, on a oak cabinet, so footprint is an issue depth is fine, but I have 100com to play with width, so it's 48 or 50, I'm going back and forth at the minute and as you say the reality is QLED/OLD is going to be massive step up.

These are the two options i've cancelled.ordered so far...

https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/philips-48oled806-48-inch-oled-tv - not sure about the Amblight thing though...(cancelled earlier this week)

https://www.richersounds.com/samsung-qe50qn94a.html - ordered delivered Friday still still to cancel

and third option

https://www.lg.com/uk/tvs/lg-oled48c14lb

 

[Darujhistan]

If your gaming the C1 is a no brainier if you go OLED, the sammy QN94 is also a very good shout

Right, I'll bear that in mind.

 

[Darujhistan]

After much deliberation and by a whisker from the QN94A, I have ordered LG C1 55".

Good price too £1069.00 from Richer Sounds, it literally took £109 off as I checked out, I was kicking myself as I had actually just missed the "WINTER70" discount code offer, but eventually ended up with a better deal.

Arriving tommorow.

 

[Darujhistan]

hahahaha this is class, What a turnaround!!

I meant to reply to your post yesterday. I was going to ask did you ever go anywhere and actually compare them side by side? Because you seemed to think that a person would have to be a picture quality purist to see the difference. OLED's are just nicer to watch and they are definitely better for Sport. I was also going to advice that you don't go compare them because you would probably want to get an OLED if you did.

As I was trying to tell you yesterday, the Burn-in issue is over blown. You don't have to baby sit TV. There are only two situations where you might have to be more careful and that's if you use it for gaming or as a PC monitor only. If you are using it for mix of things then the TV will be fine.

Check out the LG CX OLED thread in the Monitor section of this forum. That should help you with your fears about burn-in.

Looking at the various TV's you are deciding between. It's a no brainer. Get the LG C1. It's a fantastic TV. And if you are going to be doing some console gaming, then I would doubly recommend it. Gaming on an OLED TV is just amazing.

I did enter this with an open mind, I did do a lot of research, I did listen to different opinions, I do see the advantages of either TV/technology and in the end I decided with the content I watch,, plus I'm not buying a soundbar, where the C1 wins, plus the deal I got vs the Q94A at the time, the CI had the better overall feature set, and in the end OLED is the tech that will win out, it seems Samsung is moving towards OLED by stealth, so I bought the C1. I also know I wouldn't have regretted buying the QLED.

I also knew if went hard on burn-in I would trigger the OLED community, so I wouldn't end up with a QLED echo chamber...

 

[Darujhistan]

LOL, you had no intention of buying an OLED, you had spent too much time listening to OLED Naysayers. However, You just didn't realise how much better an OLED was until you went and compared them side by side.

Don't give me any of that rubbish about a better deal either, I know you are just trying to save face There was no way you were going to buy the Samsung after seeing them both side by side. Don't worry though you are not alone.

Will you be gaming on the TV at all? I will recommend you do not, as you will find it very hard to go back to any other screen at all for gaming. MY 6900XT failed about a week ago and I am in the long process of getting it RMA'ed. I bought a Xbox Series X to keep me going while waiting for RMA to come back. Hooked it up to my CX OLED and I was blown away by good everything looks. Games look far better than they ever did on my PC. Such much so, that I am starting to save up and whenever the next generation of OLEDs come out, I will buy one as my computer monitor.

The C1 is an awesome TV. Wait until you see some Disney +Imax stuff on it. Looks so good.

LOL!!!

I had no intention of buying an OLED and yet I bought one?



Update: I'm sending it back, it's just too big! I didn't like the stand either, weighed an absolute ton, and just barely fit on the unit.

 

[Darujhistan]

I have an LG B6 with burn in so bad that I am sending it back to LG for a new panel at a cost of £200. I'm thinking of a bigger 65" TV and can get a QN95A for £1300 (including cashback). The burn in issue has really put me off OLED for the time being but as I mostly game and watch 4K content I'm undecided on the C1 (and spending an extra £400, which can go towards a PS5 or XB1X) or QN95A.

Pardon the pun, but would you really want to get burned again?

I wouldn't.

I'd buy a QLED and game worry free.

 

[Darujhistan]

You're right, I have been weighing it up and will stick with a QLED for my next TV. Just trying to figure out of Samsung offer a 5 year warranty if I buy from them directly as a get a discount via my company.

That would be my take if I had had a OLED burn in issue, no way would I be spending the next 4-5 years worrying about burn-in having ALREADY had one TV suffer from the issue, it makes no sense.

Most won't suffer from it, but that is meaningless to you.