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MaX_PoWah

MaX_PoWah

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Hiya, been reading some of the threads about and it seems am2 isnt the way to go atm.. soo thinking of going for a e6300, i will be salvaging some parts from my current rig but i am thinking of buying

MSI 975X Platinum PowerUP Edition (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard ( Basically because i have no faith in gigabyte, even tho it is cheaper )

Zalman CNPS9500-AT Aero Flower (Socket 775) CPU Cooler ( Because it doesnt come with a fan and zalman stuffs usally pretty good ? )

Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary Dual Channel Kit (TY2KIT12864AA663) ( because i want to overclock it to at least 3ghz )

Intel Core 2 DUO E6300 "LGA775 Allendale" 1.86GHz (1066FSB) - OEM ( not sure about this part, was looking at the e6400 ? is it worth the little bit extra ?)

which will be used with an x1800xt, a 74gb raptor, a 380w antec trueblue, and a audigy 4, can anybody see any problems with that ?

I must admit, msi boards have always been reliable and stable, but i have never acheived decent overclocking results with them, as i said above i want to be getting over 3ghz with this chip stable, so if there is no chance i am going to get that with the msi board then i will look elsewhere..

Thanks a lot for any replies.
 
Pushing a 6300 into 3Ghz means you need to push FSB well above 400Mhz as well. Thus you may want to look into Gigabyte DS3 or ASUS P5B which are capable of high FSB.

Not sure what that Crucial PC5300 can do but you need a kit that is capable of DDR2 900 to match the high FSB speed if you want 3Ghz out of 6300.

Lolcb said:
380 W :eek:
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That 380W is not going to be enough for this rig even at stock speed!! A well branded 500W+ is recommended (Seasonic, Corsair, Tagan, OCZ...etc).
 
harris1986 said:
if you have no faith in gigabyte why not go asus?
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Ok changed it for the Asus P5W DH Deluxe, had loads of msi boards but its time for a change, regarding the ram it will do silly speeds, see this thread

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17662100

not convinced about the psu situation, its running my current rig fine, and i know a friend running crossfire off this psu, but if you really think i need one then i could get another, which would mean getting only 1gb of ram to stay in budget

Corsair HX 520W ATX2.2 Modular SLI Compliant PSU (CMPSU-520HXUK)

Corsair 1GB DDR2 XMS2-6400C4 TwinX (2x512MB)

instead of the crucial anniversary stuff
 
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a lot of people do think you need a lot more juice than in reality. But 380w might just be a bit shady! You probably could run it, but i personally wouldnt want to risk it!
 
Depends on the +12V rail really, that's where the main components are drawing their power from. Considering 1800XT + 10,000rpm raptor HDD + room for OC to 3Ghz, 380W does seem poor.

That P5W DH is a great mobo but it's using 975 chipsets which won't achieve high FSB neccessary to bring your 6300 to 3Ghz+.
 
steve258 said:
Depends on the +12V rail really, that's where the main components are drawing their power from. Considering 1800XT + 10,000rpm raptor HDD + room for OC to 3Ghz, 380W does seem poor.

That P5W DH is a great mobo but it's using 975 chipsets which won't achieve high FSB neccessary to bring your 6300 to 3Ghz+.
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Well i am going for a e6400 now, but i thought the P5W DH was the motherboard to be going for, i am confused now lol
 
choosing a mobo depends on the chip you are going for, the 6400 is still an allendale so you want to be choosing a 965 chipset board. Had you be going for the 6600 or 6700 which uses the conroe chip then you would be wanting to choose a 975x chipset board!

Might i suggest the ds3. This is a very good stable and overclocking board for an extremely good price!
 
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965 chipset based mobo like the DS3 or P5B / Deluxe can achieve higher FSB and thus are recommended for Allendale 6300 / 6400 chips with low multiplyers for high ocs.

With high multies conroe chips (6600+) FSB does not matter as much because you will likely hit the oc limit of your CPU before the FSB reaches its limit, in this case either 975 or 965 chipsets will do.
 
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Asus P5B Deluxe (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

so i want that one for a e6400 and not

Asus P5W DH Deluxe WiFi (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard

as the first one will give me higher fsb's ?, the second one has wifi tho, is it possible to get the p5b with wifi ?

I am really not a fan of gigabyte boards, i find it hard to get past the problems i have had with them in the past, the asus will be as good tho wont it overclocking wise ?

//edit i found a ASUS P5B DLX/WIFI-AP is that the same but with wifi i am guessing ?
 
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Yes the P5B Deluxe will oc just as well, just that the DS3 offers same ocability for less.

There is the wifi version of P5B Deluxe as well but not sure if OCUK stock them.
 
Ok so gonna order everything now, its looking like

Zalman CNPS9500-AT Aero Flower (Socket 775) CPU Cooler

Crucial 2GB (2x1GB) DDR2 PC2-5300C3 667MHz Tenth Anniversary Dual Channel Kit (TY2KIT12864AA663)

Antec NEO HE500GB 500W Modular PSU With 80mm Low Speed/noise Fan 18db

Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13ghz - Skt775 Fsb1066 2mb Cache Boxed

ASUS P5B DLX/WIFI-AP Pentium 4/Celeron/Pentium D/PentiumEE/65nm dual-core/Core2Duo/Core2EE
 
On the PSU issue, you need to be aware that overclocking your system uses up a huge amount of extra power. An increase in VCore voltage from 1.25V to 1.45V might not look like much in the grand scheme of things, but it will actually increase the CPU's power consumption from 65W to 120W+.

A basic Core 2 system running on stock configuration, with a single HDD and a mid-high range graphics card will use an average of about 320W of power, so already you'd be pushing a PSU of that spec to its limits. That's without going into the prospects of multiple hard disks, cooling fans, or the trend towards increasingly power-hungry graphics cards. Considering all that, plus the cost of overclocking, means it's very wise to invest in a higher-wattage, and above all good quality PSU for your system.

Follow this link for a calculator that will estimate your PSU needs based on system components. It does overestimate somewhat, because it combines the theoretical peak power consumption of all your pc's components - something which in practice is never likely to happen - but it gives you a rough-and-ready figure to work from.

Hope that helps :)
 
lmao, i have just realised i actully have a

Antec NeoPower 480W ATX2.0 PSU

i changed it when i bought my x2, i tottaly forgot, would that cope ok with the new stuff ?

Thats thrown me off, because i could probbably afford a 6600 now, would a 6600 be ok on that new board ?, or do i need the other board ?
 
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Yes the 480W will handle it fine.

Like I said either P5W DH (975 based) or the P5B Deluxe (965 based) will work with the 6600 just fine. 9 multi means you only need 333Mhz FSB to achieve 3Ghz+. It's up to you whether to go that extra for the P5W DH.
 
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