OS X on PC

Hamish

Hamish

Hamish

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This isn't a thread about how to install OS X on a PC, I'm just wondering what everyones opinion on the matter is. Is it that you are jealous that you forked out all that money on a mac when other people are running it for free or are you genuinely concerned about people breaking the law? Or don't you care?

In my opinion the software is only half the experience, the quiet, compact industrial designs of the cases and interestingly designed packaging is a large part of what makes macs miles ahead of PCs, and the fact that the software is tied to the hardware is one of the main reasons why macs are so trouble free, IMO the OSx86ers are just turning a wonderful user experience into a bit of software you stick on your old computer to mess around with...
 
One thing about a Mac is, opening the packaging is miles more fun and exciting than opening a packaging of e.g. a Dell (both companies are OEM, so they can be compared).

Thus as you've said, the software is only half the fun.

I've got to agree with Apple and their "Just Works" slogan, in order for their iMacs, MacBook (pro) e.t.c to "Just Work", they've got to be the software's OEM, period. However, I do not entirely agree with them when it comes to an iPod Touch... but thats another issue.
 
As a Mac owner/user, I dont give a damn if people run OSX on other hardware. Thats what hackers do and in turn they contribute a lot to the community. I have no grievance whatsoever that someone is using for free what I paid for. I've got better things to worry about.

Yes, the idea of a "Mac" is both hardware and software, but I cant deny that I would LOVE to be able to legally install OSX on a box I've specced and made myself. The Macs simply do not offer the same bang for buck on hardware PCs do. Every Mac I've bought I've always sacrificed performance to get the OS. It shouldnt be that way.

Alas, Apple are never going to allow it to happen. The whole point is to attract people to the OS and sell the hardware at a massive profit.
 
I've used it before and there are some really dedicated users in the community working towards getting things working on a PC, most of which probably use Macs. I for one wouldn't of ever gotten a Mac if I hadn't of tried it on my PC first.
 
Mohinder said:
It's fully worth it though!

I might replace my macbook with something else just so I can do it again.
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ha ha yep!

I paid over the odds on hardware for my MBP on one thing.

The system.

The fact its the best designed laptop and *pretty much* high end (not so much now but what's 200mhz).

I love it, my PC using mates think it looks good and want one.

Apple all the way tbh. Infact, I aint actually used my PC since I got this, from using is pretty much all the time.

Thinking about selling it as well. Edit: The pc that is :p
 
Mohinder said:
It's fully worth it though!

I might replace my macbook with something else just so I can do it again.
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Whereas personally, I'd rather see more of that money go towards the specs of the system, than the box it comes in.

Not saying that's the case for all Apple stuff - it's not - but comparing certain Macs to certain PCs/notebooks, one has to wonder why you're paying £700 for a notebook with no DVD-RW, 1GB of RAM and an integrated graphics chipset.

But then, it's all down to choice, and people evidently choose to pay that much for that, so there's really not a lot wrong with it. I just personally know that I couldn't do it.
 
TheVoice said:
Whereas personally, I'd rather see more of that money go towards the specs of the system, than the box it comes in.
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Oh yea, I agree on that - I also do hope Apple introduce more up-to-date graphics/processors with a more up-to-date market pricing... if they do that, I'm sure their Shares will shoot up from converters...
 
Apple are and always have been quite happy to make a premium product that's good enough and charge accordingly. They can make more profit selling less machines with a nice big margin than a box shifter like Acer/Dell/Lenovo. Bleeding edge hardware has never been on the radar, although they have started to get new Intel hardware before a lot of other vendors. I'd had my MBP a good three months before the Thinkpad T60 actually arrived in the country.

Opening up the OS is an interesting question. I suspect it'll never happen, having been stillborn a couple of times before, and with the clone PowerPC debacle that followed.
 
TheVoice said:
Whereas personally, I'd rather see more of that money go towards the specs of the system, than the box it comes in.

Not saying that's the case for all Apple stuff - it's not - but comparing certain Macs to certain PCs/notebooks, one has to wonder why you're paying £700 for a notebook with no DVD-RW, 1GB of RAM and an integrated graphics chipset.

But then, it's all down to choice, and people evidently choose to pay that much for that, so there's really not a lot wrong with it. I just personally know that I couldn't do it.
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Resale value is pretty high, the hardware is decent, it's well built, other things too.

It's the OS that I want most though... that and there's just something about Apple hardware I enjoy. You don't get other prebuilt desktop machines of the same quality or attractiveness, and imo Apple portables are the nicest to look at and handle too.
 
I think it will be interesting to see what happens when standard pc's go EFI.

I really want a Mac Pro with a 30" but a 7300Gt just doesn't cut it at that res to me. Certainly not forking out the cash for the Quadro card either.

Hopefully the Mac Pro refresh will introduce something a bit more mainstream in the graphics, an 8600GT/2600 Pro would be nice.

Regarding OS X on PC's then hopefully will get more people interested in MAC's so get more widestream support.
 
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