Overtime problems

[~J~]

Quick question:

Company I work for asked me to do some overtime in January to meet a customer deadline.

I spent about 30hrs extra working to get it complete, and sure enough met the deadline.

When my company were testing the software, they referred back to the original spec and noticed they hadn't told me everything, so gave me the additional work which got done. This additional work was during normal working hours.

Today, I get an email saying the company is NOT paying me the overtime because the original work was not completed on time!

So the question is, just because they didn't give me the full spec, can they refuse the overtime, even though I've got proof that the full information was not given to me in the first place?

Normally I'd not bother, but at nearly £20 an hour for 30 hrs is a lot of money!

 

[~J~]

How big is the company?

I'd speak to the HR department or the person you were reporting directly to.

Company is only about 12 strong. The person telling me is the director.

I'm furious to be honest. Totally knocked me for six, can't believe that because of their lack of information to me that I've gotta suffer.

The work they got they admitted was brilliant, but also admitted that they forgot to give me a bit more.

Not happy

 

[~J~]

Well that's the clincher mate, only been with the company since October and as yet, I don't have any contract!!

 

[~J~]

No I'm full time, they just keep forgetting to send the contract.

What's TOIL?

 

[~J~]

Depending on how strongly you feel about this maybe speak to a solictor to find out about your rights. Do you want to carry on working for a company that treats its' employee's like this anyway?

Nope, I'm thinking of leaving anyway, had a hell of a lot of problems with them (not getting paid my full-time wage over Xmas, etc), and a lot of other issues that I don't think are right to mention on a forum, suffice to say it's been the most unhappiest time of my working life in 20 years.

Obviouslly I don't wanna get the sack! But to answer your question, I feel very strongly over this, I just think I've been took for a ride.

 

[~J~]

Cheers for the responses,

Quite categorically, the director is aware that the work he gave me was completed. To cut a long story short, there were some crystal reports which all got done apart from the suppression of zeroes. I asked him if he wanted me to work late to go through the field properties and suppress the zeroes (there's about 100 fields over 8 pages of reports, so quite a bit of time).

Anyway, he said if I did, it'd earn me "Brownie points", so off I went, spent about 4hrs on that occasion doing the work, emailed him at about 22:00 to say they'd all been done and next morning get an "Excellent!".

Jobs a ***'un I thought. Next day, get told the reports are great, but of course when they compare what I've done with what the customer wants, what I've done is perfect but there's a few missing. Look back on the notes from the customer to what they've given me and sure enough they've not given me the full story.

So yeah, the director was aware of it.

This happened about 2hrs ago, thought I'd have calmed down by now as I'm usually a rational person that needs time to think things over, but this is just totally unfair.

O well, time to distrubute the CV again.

Cheers again for the responses, appreciate it.

 

[~J~]

Wouldn't TOIL be classed as gross misconduct though? Not getting paid I can cope with with for a few days, but if it means losing my job, then obviously I can't afford to be out of work.

It's an option I've thought of, really can't be bothered to put the effort into my work when it's not appreciated.

 

[~J~]

So he didn't say he'd pay you overtime? Brownie points are not the same as money.

No, the overtime was confirmed a few days before, I was reciting what he said as confirmation that he'd acknowledged the overtime had been complete, and before the deadline.

 

[~J~]

Here's where you have to be careful. Your boss could easily turn around and say "I didn't authorise overtime"... did your boss actually agree that you should work extra hours, and did you confirm with him that these were to be included in overtime? Or did you just assume that, as you were working towards a deadline, you should be paid overtime?

Yes. Originally, because of my own work load, we were going to employ a sub-contractor for the work, but the boss asked me if I'd mind doing it as it would work out cheaper* than the £300 a day subbie fees.

So yes, he confirmed that overtime would be required, a full time sheet is logged, and he's had this timesheet since 24th January when the overtime ended (about 6hrs a night for a week).




* didn't realise how cheap!! lol