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Andybtsn

Andybtsn

Andybtsn

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Hi Guys,

I recently had Fast.co.uk do some tests on my line, they asked if I had been using p2p software on my computer as they could see the usage on the line.

I wasn't aware that ISP's could tell what you are doing on the line. Surely they could catch more people illegally downloading etc or do a lot of internet usage use p2p?

Cheers.

For the record it was BBC iPlayer that was showing p2p usage but I was asked if I was downloading torrents.

Andy
 
yep, ISP's can see all, trust me :)

ISP's are not the police of the internet (yet) so are not required to provide details of what you do and unless a court order is received, wont provide any information to any company (against law if they do) and cover their own backs with the terms and conditions you accept.
 
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as i said above, the data is ''personal'' so covered under data protection and various others unless a court order is received for them to disclose the information.

EDIT: ISP's are only providing the connectivity to the internet, what you do is up to you however law could change in many years (or sooner) to make it law for a isp for instance to police the customers and provide details to police and other authorised companies.
 
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lemzip said:
as i said above, the data is ''personal'' so covered under data protection and various others unless a court order is received for them to disclose the information.

EDIT: ISP's are only providing the connectivity to the internet, what you do is up to you however law could change in many years (or sooner) to make it law for a isp for instance to police the customers and provide details to police and other authorised companies.
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if isps ever police the internet expect organised crime to step in and make a profit.

for the goverments surely people making a profit selling pirated software , games and dvd's is worse than someone downloading for their own use.
 
arknor said:
if isps ever police the internet expect organised crime to step in and make a profit.
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Do you not think its been talked about as possibility? I have no doubt data etc will go to the wrong places but that happens everywhere and with whoever looks after it. As long as humans are involved in the chain, things can always go sour.
 
Andybtsn said:
For the record it was BBC iPlayer that was showing p2p usage but I was asked if I was downloading torrents.
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BBC iPlayer Blog: 20-Apr-2009
"As of today, we're no longer using P2P to distribute our content, or use your upload bandwidth- all content is now either streaming or direct HTTP download from our servers. If you're a user of our existing BBC iPlayer Download Manager, you can continue to use it to play back files that you've previously downloaded, but all new downloads will be via iPlayer Desktop, so feel free to go ahead and uninstall BBC iPlayer Download Manager (look for that entry in Add/Remove Programmes). Note that Sky Player and 4OD use the same Kontiki technology as our existing BBC iPlayer Download Manager, so if you've installed their download managers you may find that some shared Kontiki components remain after uninstalling ours."

I installed iPlayer Desktop on a friend's computer this weekend and can confirm there was no uploading going on.
 
Indeed, iPlayer hasn't used p2p for some months now, so that cannot be the source of the OPs p2p data.

Just for the record, there is nothing illegal about p2p file sharing. It is the sharing of copyrighted material that is illegal.

p2p is an excellent platform for sharing popular data that many users are downloading simultaneously. Indeed, the more seeds the stronger the torrent! Hence its popularity with copyright infringers...:D
 
Andybtsn said:
So back to my previous question, why can't more be done about illegal downloading?
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The burden on ISP's would be immense, they can easily monitor protocols (although lots of P2P is now encrypted they can still ID patterns if they like) but to monitor the content of unencrypted packets is a big task which they obviously don't want to do.
 
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So back to my previous question, why can't more be done about illegal downloading?
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Your isp just asked you what you were doing because they have no way of knowing if you physically are doing it. Surely that makes this question redundant.
 
I think if ISP's where to police the internet and warn you over what you where downloading illegally they would put themselves out of business, as most people would not need the 20-50meg connection speeds they are paying for.
 
mit1 said:
I think if ISP's where to police the internet and warn you over what you where downloading illegally they would put themselves out of business, as most people would not need the 20-50meg connection speeds they are paying for.
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hence why they dont want to do it!
 
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