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p4, what can i overclock it to?

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Ok so i have a p4 3.06mhz (533 fsb, its that old!). I'm currently waiting for the price drop in July to upgrade my CPU. So i thought i'd overclock this P4, currently im at 3.6 mhz on stock volts (1.27) at a temp of 36degress.

Whats the limit on what this chip will do with reasonable temps?

EDIT now running @ 3.8, 1.29 volts

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Looking at the voltage, I'm guessing it's a Prescott Core. Around 4.0-4.2GHz with a max of around 1.4V for sensible temperatures.

Mul
 
Max 1.4? stock 1.27? What the hell?
I've had 4 scotts and 1.375-1.4 is their stock voltage...

Also 36 C is very low, if it's trueley a scott, it can do 70-75C no problem @ full load...

You can try higher anytime as long as you dont go over 1.55 volts and 70 C on 100% load...

Edit if its really a prescott at those temps it should do 4.5-5 ghz no problem...
 
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You may reach a bit higher, but you won't notice a huge performance gain over 3.6 really.
 
When I mean 1.4V as max, I mean 1.4V is about as high you'll want to go vcore wise on basic air cooling without it getting very hot. The last time I used an LGA775 Prescott it was a G1 533FSB one with a stock voltage of 1.3V ish. For every 0.025V increment temps would actually sky rocket, although it was rather cool stock voltage and clocks.

Mul
 
just probe the limit yourself.. you're lucky you have a low stock fsb which means you'll have a high multiplier.

the beauty with P4s was always the thermal protection, you could cook the living daylights out of it and it'll just thermally throttle (slow itself down until its under control).

This talk of 70-75c on full load is rubbish, prescotts can take much more than that, mid 80s with little problem. As long as you're watching the temps you can react if they get out of hand then once you've found your max you can make your own judgement on speed vs heat.

I don't understand the comment about not noticing a difference over 3.6ghz?? wtf? Try an extra 1ghz.. I'm sure you'd notice that.

I had a P4 570J up to 4.5ghz and it was very very fast, fast enough to keep up with AMD X2 chips up to their max clocks.

Heat is only relative if its going to damage the chip and AMDs always were much more fragile than Intel cpus. You can't compare the 2.
 
Mul said:
When I mean 1.4V as max, I mean 1.4V is about as high you'll want to go vcore wise on basic air cooling without it getting very hot. The last time I used an LGA775 Prescott it was a G1 533FSB one with a stock voltage of 1.3V ish. For every 0.025V increment temps would actually sky rocket, although it was rather cool stock voltage and clocks.

Mul

So what if they sky rocket, they can sky rocket, the cpu can easely handle high temps, i went 1.575 volts on a freezer 7 pro and the p4 630 scott still was below 70C


matt100:
Are you sure? I alawys stopped @ 75 C, being scared the chips would blow up on me, a lot of guides agree 75 C is the max, and 65 C to be safe...
 
yeah they're probably written by AMD users.. its understandable that they would think 65-75 was the max range but its just not true with P4s.

Either way it'll throttle or switch itself off IF it gets too hot.. not melt itself and set fire to your house.
 
If Prescotts can handle immense heat i wonder why 4 of ours died over a 6 month period? They were early 775 versions, forget what model but 3Ghz 1mb cache. Over last yrs summer they hit 80C+ load easily and eventually 4 chips out of 25 died. This was all at stock speed and stock OEM configurations (RM) The mainboards were fine and we replaced with Celeron D cpus. Later Athlon cpus were not fragile at all, thats since the early Duron and Thunderbirds you're talking about, and that was only physically, they could take a good bit of heat as well. The only cpus i've seen die over time are Northwood PIVs due to SNDS and Prescotts due to roasting to death on the stock intel cooler, this is due a lot to RM sticking them in low profile MATX cases which are the noisest OEM PCs i've ever heard in my life, even browsing the internet results in the fans taking off. Also, about the heat Prescott produces, i've had to diagnose motherboard death on a few client rigs due to the Prescott burning them to death, this was on S478 mostly as that platform just was'nt able to cope properly, especially overclocked with Prescotts, so letting it get hot may not affect the cpu but you're not doing the motherboard and its components any favours. The heat output was just a byproduct of gate leakage etc.. i don't think the Prescotts were 'designed' to run hot and as seen, some have suffered due to that.
 
Surely it's a northwood processor with a 533mhz fsb? Check with cpuid. If it is a northwood 3.6 gig is a good overclock from it.
 
no, there were plenty of s775 533fsb chips 3.06 and 2.8 and even 2.53ghz iirc.

I don't think the comparison between a micro atx system with rubbish cooling and a full atx case with a freezer 7 is really significant.

I've still not seen a P4 die due to heat, quite honestly if you've seen 4 out of 25 then you have very obvious cause to go back to intel with them because they are designed to throttle and then shut down.

The motherboard/ram is another matter entirely.
 
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I've still not seen a P4 die due to heat, quite honestly .

I'm not the only one, i deal a lot sometimes with other IT departments in Schools and have heard of the odd Prescott roasting a mobo or roasting itself eventually, biggest complaint most people had was the noise though. The Prescotts were just rubbish, poor performance with more heat and power demands. I could tell when i was in the 'new at the time' IT room compared to other rooms, the latest IT suite had Prescotts and was degrees warmer and a lot noisier than the other suites :D Thank god for the Core 2 design.
 
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