P45

Skyfire · 16 Apr 2006 at 01:01

Just started a new job and my old employer won't issue me a P45, my new employer says I can't start without it, how can I get another copy?

Moredhel · 16 Apr 2006 at 01:03

They have to issue it, iirc they can get into a fair amount of trouble if they don't.

Scuzi · 16 Apr 2006 at 01:04

AFAIK your old employer can get into trouble for not returning your P45. Get on the phone to the people at the tax office and they will be able to sort you out

Conanius · 16 Apr 2006 at 01:32

just go into your old job and ask for the p45, if they say no, whip out a pre written letter addressed to the tax office asking them to sign it stating they are refusing the give it to you.

they get screwed over, job done

bigredshark · 16 Apr 2006 at 01:34

i got issue my P45 when i moved to this job but never actually gave it to them. so i guess you don't need it to start, you could find a friendly person in accounts and ask...

Redrum · 16 Apr 2006 at 01:39

I did a job last year where I didn't give them a P45, so they applied to the tax office instead and got some other form that they needed, so it can be done. However, it took months and I was on emergency tax until then, although that got refunded when the form did come through.

-westy- · 16 Apr 2006 at 02:00

Redrum said:
I did a job last year where I didn't give them a P45, so they applied to the tax office instead and got some other form that they needed, so it can be done. However, it took months and I was on emergency tax until then, although that got refunded when the form did come through.

P46?

geiger · 16 Apr 2006 at 02:28

You can apply for a replacement tax code however it will cause you strife which is probably why your old company is taking the pleasure.

I had a company do this even though I gave the right amount of notice and the next company to employ me paid my NI contributions to the wrong code for 9 months!

V-Spec · 16 Apr 2006 at 02:37

Careful, you definitley need your P45 from your previous company, for your new companies records, if your new employer doesn't know your tax code you'll automatically get put onto emergency tax which is at lease 40% and you need to faff around to get it back. providing it was a proper job with payslips and BACS transfer you should definitley have a P45, it is mandatory.

Redrum · 16 Apr 2006 at 10:24

-westy- said:
P46?

Not sure, I don't really know anything about tax. All I know is that I didn't give them a P45 or any other information about tax, so they charged me at 22% a week, minus my tax allowance for that week. Then when the form came through, they paid me back the tax I had been overcharged. And this was a large multinational company, so I doubt they did anything wrong.

PeterNem · 16 Apr 2006 at 10:35

Just give your new employer a P46 inmstead and you should be issued a new tax code in no time.

If your employer happened to "lose" your P46 (say they "put it in the post"), then there's not much you can do, as I'm pretty sure they cannot issue a duplicate.

fatiain · 16 Apr 2006 at 11:17

V-Spec said:
Careful, you definitley need your P45 from your previous company, for your new companies records, if your new employer doesn't know your tax code you'll automatically get put onto emergency tax which is at lease 40% and you need to faff around to get it back. providing it was a proper job with payslips and BACS transfer you should definitley have a P45, it is mandatory.

Emergency tax is nowhere near 40%, it's about 22%

PeterNem · 16 Apr 2006 at 11:28

Indeed, if you're in the higher tax band and pay emergency tax you'll owe them money.