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Kol

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Searching through the sub-forum there doesn't appear to be a recent thread about paint. The odd one here and there but nothing that is for recommendations.

So, in terms of paint what do you guys use or recommend?

I guess the standard choices worth knowing about are:

Lounge/bedroom walls?
Paint for skirting / architrave?
Ceiling paint?
Masonry paint?

Be good to see what you guys swear by and what you actively avoid.
 
I'm certainly no expert but here's what I've been using lately and had no problems.

Fresh plaster : Leyland matt (10l tubs) watered down
Ceilings : Dulux matt white
Walls : Dulux or Wickes
Masonry : Sandtex (both textured and smooth)
 
Dulux Easycare paints cost more than pretty much anything else even with trade discounts but in my experience are well worth it. For indoor domestic paints nothing comes close. There are some trade commercial high wear one coat paints but these are also expensive, although in large tubs, and great if you only want magnolia, cream or white.

Being able to babywipe the Dulux Easycare (Huggies Pure babywipes are amazing btw) without removing any paint but cleaning grease, pen and general marks off makes it worth the extra.
 
Anything white I use Dulux trade super Matt which I also use watered down for priming bear plaster.

All the woodwork in our house is now done in dulux satin quick dry since it is impossible to get a gloss that doesn't yellow in a month!

Walls are a mixture of dulux heritage/ traditional ranges and farrow and ball estate emulsion.

Never painted anything external but have a rendered wall following our recent extension which will be getting a coat of sandtex when I get round to it!

I don't use specific hardwearing paints anywhere as they generally have a higher shine and moder emulsions are bad enough already I want flat not eggshell!
 
For ceilings and other areas of white I've found Johnstone's trade paint is good, for bedroom walls, etc. I like Dulux endurance stuff - it can take a bit more effort and an extra coat compared to some but so far results have been good and seems to wear well, etc.

For places like skirting that need gloss or satin I've not found anything I really like - maybe because I was too impatient but I'm not 100% happy with the results using both Crown and Dulux - seem to be easily damaged and were hard to get on with a good consistency.

Don't really have any experience with masonry paint.
 
Skirting: I use Armstead Trade Quick Drying Primer/Undercoat and Armstead Satin. Water based gloss is a bit of a minefield due to yellowing. Benjamin Moore and Bedec are also supposed to do very good paints for this area.
Walls/Celing: For walls I've only really used Dulux Trade Vinyl Matt and Benjamin Moore Aura. The latter is much better quality than Dulux but a fair bit more expensive (it's US paint imported here by one company) although they do have other products that are also supposed to be excellent.

For base coats (if necessary) just get cheap and nasty white paint from wherever. Trade paint is my main recommendation because although it's slightly more expensive, it takes less coats and is usually much higher quality.
 
It doesn't seem to get a great reputation but for walls we have used the Valspar premium paint.

The paint match is fantastic, just scan in the colour you want to match and it is mixed with in my opinion 100% success.

After around 7 days the paint really can be scrubbed. We recently tried the magic erasers which makes cleaning the walls really easy.

Having a dog and a 3 year old proves to be a lifesaver and the kitchen almost 18 months on is as good as the day it was painted.
 
Scrutinize said:
Dulux Easycare paints cost more than pretty much anything else even with trade discounts but in my experience are well worth it. For indoor domestic paints nothing comes close. There are some trade commercial high wear one coat paints but these are also expensive, although in large tubs, and great if you only want magnolia, cream or white.

Being able to babywipe the Dulux Easycare (Huggies Pure babywipes are amazing btw) without removing any paint but cleaning grease, pen and general marks off makes it worth the extra.
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+1 for Dulux (Endurance Durable Matt), or Easycare as it's now called - almost essential if you have kids, as like you say wipe clean and tolerates the day to day abuse. Expensive for what it is (especially if you have it mixed rather than an off the shelf ~ £38.99 for 5 litres), but in our house at least I think any cheaper paint would have needed to have been repainted a couple of times by now.
 
Sol said:
Water based gloss is a bit of a minefield due to yellowing.
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I always assumed water-based gloss did not have the yellowing issue however the coverage and self-levelling compared to oil based stuff is significantly worse... I believe the yellowing problems associated with oil started when the EU made the painbt manufactureres change their formulation. I think it has improved over the years but may still be an in rooms that get no sunlight.
 
Good to hear positive reviews for dulux endurance. I bought some dulux "kitchen" for my kitchen and imagine it's the same.

Is it worth getting particular paint for a kitchen ceiling? I was going to use Zinsser anti mould stuff as a base and probably standard "brilliant white" from crown/similar for ceiling. (would easy wipe be preferred for grease etc..? (it will Have an extractor etc and is a large kitchen.
 
Don't use Farrow & Ball. I learned my lesson with fancy paints aimed at idiots like me who have more money then sense. I should have known it was bad when 3 decorating companies refused to quote after I had told them I'd bought the Farrow and Ball paint.

Anyway, it's awful **** that on times took up to 3 attempts to get it to stick to the wall and not just peel off overnight.

We took them to court in the end as they refused to refund our money stating the paint was used incorrectly. Eventually we just went for the cheaper Dulux stuff.
 
Leyland fast drying water based gloss is really good but you need the right paint brush. Some synthetic brushes aren't soft or fine enough to apply it well and you get lines. It doesn't yellow but to get a really high gloss finish it does take effort. You can paint fairly large areas with it and get a smooth surface.

Overall, it goes on well, has great coverage and dries quickly so win win.
 
Thanks gang. Great advice. I'm going to put these all into a table and perhaps update the OP with your suggestions.
 
Anything made for the trade, consumer stuff is rubbish. That goes for pretty much everything really.
 
We are pretty much all white in our house and have most of the brands and variants of emulsion in use over a few years.
I would say by some margin the best is a tie with the dulux endurance and the wickes equivalent.
Yes they are more expensive, but boy do they do a better job than the rest.
The acid test is when you need to sand them down, they resist sand paper so much more than all the other normal paints you can see why they are so mush tougher in general use.

My biggest regret is not ensuring I had perfect walls before using this paint on them (yet more shoddy professional trades work). The job of now getting perfect walls is significantly harder on the rooms that had the endurance/wickes equivalent as the job of sanding is 100x harder.

I have to move onto the gloss/satin next. The house having been 8 years of semi neglect previously mean't I was painting over original paint in most areas, hence we painted the whole lot over a relatively short period, and skipped the gloss etc to get the whole place looking reasonable.

I would never ever consider again not using the endurance type stuff for a hall stairs and landing.
 
We've used Valspar stuff from B&Q before, and it's not been great. Doesn't seem to go on very well and doesn't go that far either.

On the flip side, we've just used Dulux Flat Matt (mixed in either Homebase or a Dulux trade centre) and it's been great and also got a pretty good colour match to some Farrow & Ball.
 
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