Panorama: Hooligans

5ingh · 2 Aug 2006 at 22:13

Did anyone just watch this?

Basically it was about mainly Englands hooligans (as well as others) and what they got up to. I'm of Indian origin, born and bread here in England, England fan. Watching it has left a bitter taste in my mouth to be honest. How can people do this. The police was meant to be 'well prepared' but as shown in the documentary banned hooligans got into Germany without any problems.

Its funny how the media percieved the English fans as one of the best and clearly ignored the hooliganism going on in the background.

Can't the ***** have their passports ripped up or something. I even saw a granny singing about bombs being dropped in Germany...

Your views?

5ingh · 3 Aug 2006 at 10:22

fullspizz said:
Don't tar us all with the same brush.
99% of English fans out there enjoyed the hospitality of the German people and made many new friends without any trouble at all. Again, it doesn't make as watchable tv as a bunch of goons launching chairs all over the shop.

Sorry, I wasn't generalising all English fans as hooligans mate. My post was focused on the bad side. It had German and Polish hooligans too. Its the first time I've seen how hooliganism 'in practice', and I'm shocked how out of order these people can be.

5ingh · 3 Aug 2006 at 11:03

What are your feelings on the German and Polish Hooligans????

They didn't show much of them but they were bad too. They weren't singing any racist/out of order songs though. Well they didn't show it on the TV anyway. All hooligans are bad as each other!

malc30 said:
Personally i think you was jumping on the same band wagon the press were on trying to whip up news out of nothing.

Ah yes, maybe everyone should ignore them and let them do as they wish. The good news is that hopefully the ones captured by the camera will be blacklisted (or something) but that didn't stop some from getting in.

5ingh · 3 Aug 2006 at 11:56

Samtheman1k said:
Amen brother.

Nice of you to make something out of nothing from that post :thumbsup:

5ingh · 3 Aug 2006 at 12:01

Samtheman1k said:
Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what you mean?

What was the point of your post then? The way you editted my quote makes me contradict myself. Or have I have misunderstood you :confused:

5ingh · 3 Aug 2006 at 14:34

Samtheman1k said:
I don't think that anyone is DEFENDING what happened. They just want it put in perspective. A few thugs causing trouble doesn't mean that England is a nation of hooligans!

Nobody has said that all England fans are hooligans, though. All fans are expected to behave well, not the opposite. Everyone wants to see all fans having fun together. Its a minority, yes - 99% of fans are great. Hopefully things will get better, because just imagine a black/asian fan heading over there and witnessing this for themselves.

5ingh · 6 Aug 2006 at 10:09

Fop said:
See now you're taking this down an entirely different path altogether.

Are you saying that non-white england fans can't be hooligans?

Because not only is that utter nonsense, but to be frank it's a completely racist thing for you to say.

No, I think you are taking it down a different path. Maybe I should have explained why I said that. At the beginning of the documentary they were taunting German fans: "I'd rather be a **** than a kraut" etc and there was a black English fan standing there absolutely shocked, and close to tears.

Do you reckon non-white England hooligans will head over there and sing racist songs, when they can be easily attacked back themselves? Who will defend them when their own white counter-parts are being racist/offensive aswell.

Or that non-white people can't be prejudiced, offensive or racist?

The complete opposite. They can, but thats pretty obvious.