Part exchanging car - do you mention remap?

AnastieByte · 17 Sep 2007 at 17:13

Two questions really.

If asked as some dealers do when signing the paperwork do you declare the remap. If you have did the dealer reduce the part ex offer?

If not asked and it is not mentioned on the paperwork do you declare it? As if not asked its not positive disclosure (so I believe)

Thoughts?

panthro · 17 Sep 2007 at 17:16

What car is it?

AnastieByte · 17 Sep 2007 at 17:23

BMW. But not going part ex to a BMW dealer but another brand!

Jez · 17 Sep 2007 at 17:24

I wouldnt bother mentioning it, it wont increase the value of the car.

AnastieByte · 17 Sep 2007 at 17:49

Jez said:
I wouldnt bother mentioning it, it wont increase the value of the car.

Just concerned that if they ask is it not "deception"?

I just dont want to have the car rejected as a part ex!

Jez · 17 Sep 2007 at 17:51

I very very much doubt whether they will care either way. If they specifically ask then tell them, if they dont....dont.

Gaijin · 17 Sep 2007 at 18:00

Put a post it on the ECU, would be a nice surprise from an appreciative new owner who may be into all that. If an average joe buys it, he probably:

A.) Won't know what an ECU is.
B.) Won't know what it does.
C.) Won't know where it is.

I also reckon the dealer wouldn't check the ECU. Why would they need to - and if they do - who's to say you put the post it there?

Scania · 17 Sep 2007 at 18:16

Gaijin said:
Put a post it on the ECU, would be a nice surprise from an appreciative new owner who may be into all that. If an average joe buys it, he probably:

A.) Won't know what an ECU is.
B.) Won't know what it does.
C.) Won't know where it is.

I also reckon the dealer wouldn't check the ECU. Why would they need to - and if they do - who's to say you put the post it there?

Best option imo, nice surprise for an "in the know" buyer!

Tdh1987 · 18 Sep 2007 at 18:27

I chopped mine in after it had been re-maped. Couldn't get it back to the Re-mapper to put the standard file back on.

I never told the dealer, nor did they ask.

Lopéz · 18 Sep 2007 at 18:28

Gaijin said:
Put a post it on the ECU, would be a nice surprise from an appreciative new owner who may be into all that. If an average joe buys it, he probably:

A.) Won't know what an ECU is.
B.) Won't know what it does.
C.) Won't know where it is.

I also reckon the dealer wouldn't check the ECU. Why would they need to - and if they do - who's to say you put the post it there?

This is what I would do too!

jamoor · 18 Sep 2007 at 18:49

no dealer would ever know, they will probbably just give the car to a local trader or auction!

jamief · 19 Sep 2007 at 11:16

IME dealers don't know nor care.

I traded in my MR2 Turbo a few years ago on a Lexus IS200. Mr2 was full of goodies, TEIN suspension, front and rear struts, about £2k worth of bits in total. Dealer didn't even look under the bonnet, so once we'd agreed a trade in price I spend the weekend putting everything back to stock and sold all the aftermarket bits, as he wouldn't know nor care!

BigglesPiP · 19 Sep 2007 at 11:22

Gaijin said:
Put a post it on the ECU, would be a nice surprise from an appreciative new owner who may be into all that. If an average joe buys it, he probably:

A.) Won't know what an ECU is.
B.) Won't know what it does.
C.) Won't know where it is.

I also reckon the dealer wouldn't check the ECU. Why would they need to - and if they do - who's to say you put the post it there?

"There's a message in the car!!"

I like it.

NathanE · 19 Sep 2007 at 12:30

I like the post-it note idea myself. I don't see why the dealer would need or care to know. The buyer might be interested to know though. But either way, as long as the remap doesn't cause problems, I doubt either party could give a damn

PsiFox · 19 Sep 2007 at 13:26

The only possible problem I forsee would be if the next owner had the car written off.

If a thorough enough survey of the car showed up a remap the insurance company would probably refuse to pay.

jamief · 19 Sep 2007 at 15:36

PsiFox said:
The only possible problem I forsee would be if the next owner had the car written off.

If a thorough enough survey of the car showed up a remap the insurance company would probably refuse to pay.

In that case it would be the new owners fault for not declaring something (although that is a very unlikely turn of events).

FTM · 19 Sep 2007 at 16:05

but if you dont tell the dealer how will the new owner know?
and the buyer might not want a remapped car so when he's bought it and found out if he reads a post it its a bit toolate

jamief · 19 Sep 2007 at 16:16

FTM said:
but if you dont tell the dealer how will the new owner know?
and the buyer might not want a remapped car so when he's bought it and found out if he reads a post it its a bit toolate

AFAIK it is the buyers obligation to ensure that any car they drive has any/all modifications declared. Saying "I didn't know" when insurance company turns up an undeclared modification won't cut it.

Saying that, I wouldn't bother telling the dealer - let them and the new owner resolve any problems, on the off chance that any arise.

[TW]Fox · 19 Sep 2007 at 16:24

jamief said:
AFAIK it is the buyers obligation to ensure that any car they drive has any/all modifications declared. Saying "I didn't know" when insurance company turns up an undeclared modification won't cut it.

It will if there was no way you be reasonably expected to know.

pitchfork · 19 Sep 2007 at 16:59

I would, if someone buys it and has an accident, and they don't know they've got an undeclared "mod" they might get buggered over by insurance.