Pascal and VR questionnaire (Please answer to these questions)

[seklas]

I was arguing with a user from here about the Pascal graphic cards and it turned out into a fight about VR. Therefore, I would like to ask of as many of you as possible.

1. Do you care about VR? Do you have it (considering to buy it) or you don't want one at all for the time being?

2. Do you think the Pascal is a good improvement over the Maxwell generation? (please consider the 1080 (the facts we know) not the future Ti or Titan).

3. You have a mid-tear maxwell or any older GPU, do you think it's worthy to pay ~£550 for the 1080 which has a clock speed of 1.6GHz and is able to OC to 2.1GHz (but not every one of them is able to reach that clock speed)?

4. You have a GTX980 Ti or Titan X which is about 20% slower than the 1080 when overclocked. Would you consider buying the Pascal right now with a 20% advantage, but you'd be able to sell your existing card for only £350 (=£200 loss)?

5. Please be objective. If the price of 1080 is £550 and when it's overclocked reaches +20% performance over 980 Ti ir Titan X. What do you think would be a price tag of 1080 Ti and the new Titan, when: Ti = +40 performance over 980 Ti OC + a big headroom for OC + HBM 2 12 GB memory.
Titan = + 45% performance over 980 Ti OC + a headroom for OC + HBM 2 16 GB memory.

6. Do you have a G-Sync monitor?

7. Would you ever consider buying an AMD GPU (if it's the performance of 1080, but -30% price) even though you have a G-Sync only monitor?

Thanks to all participants. Hopefully a lot of votes will be gathered and at the end I will be able to make some fancy graphs.

 

[Marine-RX179]

I can see the reason on why you wish to do this, but to be frank, until Pascal is actually launched and properly reviewed, any information at this point one should just be treated as rumor and anticipation only...I don't think people will be able to properly answer what you want to know, until the card is released.

 

[seklas]

I can see the reason on why you wish to do this, but to be frank, until Pascal is actually launched and properly reviewed, any information at this point one should just be treated as rumor and anticipation only...I don't think people will be able to properly answer what you want to know, until the card is released.

I don't think it should be a problem as for most questions I have provided some scenarious (what if?) and it should be answered based on that info given. At the moment I am considering that 1080 OC is 20% faster than what the 980 Ti or Titan X can do, as it seems the opinion of some pessimistic people in the forum.

 

[Seanspeed]

I was arguing with a user from here about the Pascal graphic cards and it turned out into a fight about VR. Therefore, I would like to ask of as many of you as possible.

1. Do you care about VR? Do you have it (considering to buy it) or you don't want one at all for the time being?

2. Do you think the Pascal is a good improvement over the Maxwell generation? (please consider the 1080 (the facts we know) not the future Ti or Titan).

3. You have a mid-tear maxwell or any older GPU, do you think it's worthy to pay ~£550 for the 1080 which has a clock speed of 1.6GHz and is able to OC to 2.1GHz (but not every one of them is able to reach that clock speed)?

4. You have a GTX980 Ti or Titan X which is about 20% slower than the 1080 when overclocked. Would you consider buying the Pascal right now with a 20% advantage, but you'd be able to sell your existing card for only £350 (=£200 loss)?

5. Please be objective. If the price of 1080 is £550 and when it's overclocked reaches +20% performance over 980 Ti ir Titan X. What do you think would be a price tag of 1080 Ti and the new Titan, when: Ti = +40 performance over 980 Ti OC + a big headroom for OC + HBM 2 12 GB memory.
Titan = + 45% performance over 980 Ti OC + a headroom for OC + HBM 2 16 GB memory.

6. Do you have a G-Sync monitor?

7. Would you ever consider buying an AMD GPU (if it's the performance of 1080, but -30% price) even though you have a G-Sync only monitor?

Thanks to all participants. Hopefully a lot of votes will be gathered and at the end I will be able to make some fancy graphs.

1. Yes, I care about VR a lot. I do not have a headset currently, though.

2. Pascal should by all means be a great improvement on Maxwell, like-for-like(970 vs 1070, etc).

3. 1070 looks like a much better value than the 1080 unless you really need the best.

4. Upgrading from a 980ti to a 1080 is not great value at all. But again, if you need the best and can afford it, sure why not?

5. Well the 1080 is more likely to be £480-500 at the lower end. I expect that when GP100 hits, the 1080 will get a price drop to around £420-450 while the 1080Ti(or whatever it's called) goes for £550-600 and the Titan equivalent £750-800.

6. No

7. I would consider it, but it would mean I'd want to sell the G-sync monitor and get a Freesync one. Right now, for me, I wont buy either type unless they're supported by both manufacturers.

 

[Ash0787]

yes I am throwing money at Oculus VR but they wont give me a consumer version,
I was meant to have one in april

The answer to your question depends on three things really

- Will existing or future gen 1 VR games gain anything by being above minimum spec ( how much variation is there in image quality ), if so is a 980Ti enough for every situation ?
- Actual real world performance of the 1080 in traditional benchmarks
- Whether oculus implements the SMP specific optimizations into what is already an established SDK

Also depends on how much money I have spare

I wouldn't buy another AMD card anytime soon because their current flagship does not work properly with the most popular game in two genres ( Skyrim and Ark:Survival Evolved )

 

[Amatyr]

1. Do you care about VR? Do you have it (considering to buy it) or you don't want one at all for the time being?

Yes. I've got a CV1 Oculus Rift.

2. Do you think the Pascal is a good improvement over the Maxwell generation? (please consider the 1080 (the facts we know) not the future Ti or Titan).

So far it looks really promising to me. Looks like a good jump.

3. You have a mid-tear maxwell or any older GPU, do you think it's worthy to pay ~£550 for the 1080 which has a clock speed of 1.6GHz and is able to OC to 2.1GHz (but not every one of them is able to reach that clock speed)?

I'll likely be swapping from SLI 970s to a single 1080. Assuming that reviews are good of course.

4. You have a GTX980 Ti or Titan X which is about 20% slower than the 1080 when overclocked. Would you consider buying the Pascal right now with a 20% advantage, but you'd be able to sell your existing card for only £350 (=£200 loss)?

If I had a 980Ti, I would hold off 1080 for the moment.

5. Please be objective. If the price of 1080 is £550 and when it's overclocked reaches +20% performance over 980 Ti ir Titan X. What do you think would be a price tag of 1080 Ti and the new Titan, when: Ti = +40 performance over 980 Ti OC + a big headroom for OC + HBM 2 12 GB memory. Titan = + 45% performance over 980 Ti OC + a headroom for OC + HBM 2 16 GB memory.

I would expect the price differentials to be similar to whatever they were for the 9xx generation.

6. Do you have a G-Sync monitor?

Yes, I've got an X34.

7. Would you ever consider buying an AMD GPU (if it's the performance of 1080, but -30% price) even though you have a G-Sync only monitor?

No.

 

[Gregster]

I was arguing with a user from here about the Pascal graphic cards and it turned out into a fight about VR. Therefore, I would like to ask of as many of you as possible.

1. Do you care about VR? Do you have it (considering to buy it) or you don't want one at all for the time being?

Big time but as Oculus has completely ballsed up this release, I am still waiting for my VR headset.

2. Do you think the Pascal is a good improvement over the Maxwell generation? (please consider the 1080 (the facts we know) not the future Ti or Titan).

When looking at the size of the chip and cores and clock speeds, I am very impressed with what they have achieved. The gains Maxwell made on 28nm was very good and I did wonder if or how they would get such good gains on the first Pascal iteration and quite frankly, not even a big chip. Need to see unbiased reviews and bench results first though but I will get one regardless as I want a new GPU to review.

3. You have a mid-tear maxwell or any older GPU, do you think it's worthy to pay ~£550 for the 1080 which has a clock speed of 1.6GHz and is able to OC to 2.1GHz (but not every one of them is able to reach that clock speed)?

For 980 owners and below, if the reported gains are indeed true, a very nice upgrade. For 980Ti and TX owners, I would wait it out though. The reason I am not is in my previous response.

4. You have a GTX980 Ti or Titan X which is about 20% slower than the 1080 when overclocked. Would you consider buying the Pascal right now with a 20% advantage, but you'd be able to sell your existing card for only £350 (=£200 loss)?

No, not worth it and wait for the bigger guns.

5. Please be objective. If the price of 1080 is £550 and when it's overclocked reaches +20% performance over 980 Ti ir Titan X. What do you think would be a price tag of 1080 Ti and the new Titan, when: Ti = +40 performance over 980 Ti OC + a big headroom for OC + HBM 2 12 GB memory.
Titan = + 45% performance over 980 Ti OC + a headroom for OC + HBM 2 16 GB memory.

1080Ti = £650 and Titan = £850

6. Do you have a G-Sync monitor?

Yes

7. Would you ever consider buying an AMD GPU (if it's the performance of 1080, but -30% price) even though you have a G-Sync only monitor?

Yes, I have no issues going AMD or NVidia and I buy what does my needs the best. I wouldn't mind a UWS monitor, so not tied to a brand.

Thanks to all participants. Hopefully a lot of votes will be gathered and at the end I will be able to make some fancy graphs.

 

[andybird123]

1. Yes, have oculus rift

2. Yes, based on what we know

4. I had 2 980ti's but SLI was not up to much so i sold one weeks ago and overall Ive not lost much and had happy use of them for nearly a year so not dissapointed at all, i am staying with the fastest single card option until VR SLI is more widely adopted

5. I think / hope that 1080 prices drop to about 400-450 in time for the 1080ti to launch at 550ish again (it doesnt help that the pound exchange rate is awful at the moment)

6.yes, a ROG swift

7. Ever, yes, but based on what we know at the moment (~220mm chip until christmas) it seems unlikely
Losing gsync would bother me less if say a 4k per eye headset came out and was demonstrably better on AMD.

Or If AMD had a single card 4k and 120hz freesync setup then i would seriously consider changing over.

 

[savagesam117]

I'm not interested in VR in the slightest.

The jump looks promising from the likes of the lower cards, I don't know how things will come against 980Ti's and TX's. We'll only find out when they are released and normal people test them.

I'll be getting a 1080 as I downgraded to a 380x waiting for these cards. Unless a really cheap TI's pops up, I'll grab that instead.

Don't own a Gsync monitor although I do want to try one, can't justify the extra over my current monitor.

I wouldn't buy AMD if I had a Gsync monitor, if the figures showed AMD well ahead, ID sell up and buy freesync and be left with some change.