pass plus driving test thing

bikerdude1982 · 12 Jun 2007 at 08:56

Mark A said:
I started my lessons in December so i had been driving in the dark and rain for ages. Can the instructor just do the motorway bits of the pass plus and knock it down to a couple of hours?.

If not i might give it a miss, Ive been taking lessons for 1 1/2 hours a week since December now. Ive driven in snow, ice, high wind, rain and on loads of different roads bar motorway. I'm getting really bored of lessons now and doing some on line quotes it only saves me £100.

How many hours u done total?? sounds like your instructor is in need of a few bob

Dashik · 12 Jun 2007 at 10:16

bikerdude1982 said:
How many hours u done total?? sounds like your instructor is in need of a few bob

LOL or maybe he was not as good a learner as he thought he would be?

Its always the instructors fault eh? Never the learner not listening or practicing is it?

Everyone is different. I had pupils who are safe and pass in no time. I had pupils who were great drivers right up to the test when nerves kicked in. I had pupils who had to spend ages at it and passed first time no problems etc.....

Let me guess you were born driving....

The IPB · 12 Jun 2007 at 10:48

I did PP when I passed at 17, made my insurance cheaper. Also I think the Motorway time and the other stuff I learnt was well worth it definately made me more confident. I think they should just incorporate this stuff into the standing driving test.

Ex-RoNiN · 12 Jun 2007 at 10:53

In my area, the cost of PP was 50 pound more expensive than the discount the insurance would have given me! Thanks but no thanks...

al123 · 12 Jun 2007 at 11:04

Mark A said:
Can the instructor just do the motorway bits of the pass plus and knock it down to a couple of hours?.

I just had an extra lesson after I passed on motorway driving, it helped a lot. I know a couple of people who are scared of motorways so imo it should be part of the driving test anyway.

The IPB · 12 Jun 2007 at 11:11

That's exactly what I think, also a lot of people have no idea how to conduct themselves on a motorway. Pass plus thoroughly addresses motorway driving.

Mark A · 12 Jun 2007 at 13:09

bikerdude1982 said:
How many hours u done total?? sounds like your instructor is in need of a few bob

Ive not been counting tbh, Ive not been able to have ANY practice in my own time so I'm driving for only 1 1/2 hours a week. I failed my first test mainly due to being in a different car for the test and couldn't get used to it. My second test is soon and I'm hoping to pass this time.

Business Man · 12 Jun 2007 at 14:10

I passed on the 1st May and hadn't driven at all since. I did my first pass plus lesson today which involved town driving. This was in Nottingham city centre and around the lace market. good god there were so many signs, one way streets and road works i wanted to cry haha.. joke

There were loads of students in town and my instructor was doing his best to put me off saying.. whoo look at her, i bet she's good in bed and stuff lol

My driving was pretty good though considering as i thought i would probably be rusty.

I would deffinatly recommend doing passplus though even if its just for the motorways.

bikerdude1982 · 12 Jun 2007 at 16:55

Dashik said:
LOL or maybe he was not as good a learner as he thought he would be?

Its always the instructors fault eh? Never the learner not listening or practicing is it?

Everyone is different. I had pupils who are safe and pass in no time. I had pupils who were great drivers right up to the test when nerves kicked in. I had pupils who had to spend ages at it and passed first time no problems etc.....

Let me guess you were born driving....

LoL yes ok point taken and yes not all instructors are at fault i only post the above as after 1 & 1/2 P/W for 6 months somethings gone worng

Either one you are totaly bad at driving and more sorted to a manual or (the one i jumped into thinking) is the money one

Althou my mate did have the probs of the instructor wanting money
he made and tock money for lessons he never got booked many tests for him and tock the money for the test and rebooked this time after time

Not saying all instructors are bad just a few bad apples but such is life

I must therefore prise my instructor John from the AA dam good bloke got me thou my driving test in 12 1hr lessons

peace all

The Edge · 12 Jun 2007 at 17:24

cyclopopcicle said:
its against the law

No it's not.

Once you've passed your test you can drive where you like including motorways with no further tuition daft as it may sound.

There is no law that says an instructor can't supervise you on the motorway once you've passed without you taking the pass plus. if there was how would he cope with doing refresher courses for people who haven't been driving for a bit and want to go on the motorway?

Mark A · 15 Jun 2007 at 22:32

bikerdude1982 said:
LoL yes ok point taken and yes not all instructors are at fault i only post the above as after 1 & 1/2 P/W for 6 months somethings gone worng

Either one you are totaly bad at driving and more sorted to a manual or (the one i jumped into thinking) is the money one

Althou my mate did have the probs of the instructor wanting money
he made and tock money for lessons he never got booked many tests for him and tock the money for the test and rebooked this time after time

Not saying all instructors are bad just a few bad apples but such is life

I must therefore prise my instructor John from the AA dam good bloke got me thou my driving test in 12 1hr lessons

peace all

Well no I'm not "totaly bad at driving" :rolleyes:

. Ive only done around 40 odd hours with no practice in between. My first test i took back in march and the instructors car broke down the day before so i had to use a different car. Admittedly i left it a few weeks before i re booked and when i did the soonest i could get on line was the middle of June.

more sorted to a manual

I am learning to drive a manual

.

My instructor isn't after my money either, he is fully booked and has had to turn my friends mum away as he had no time left. Hes having to work the odd Sunday and evening as well.

cyclopopcicle · 16 Jun 2007 at 09:38

The Edge said:
No it's not.

Once you've passed your test you can drive where you like including motorways with no further tuition daft as it may sound.

There is no law that says an instructor can't supervise you on the motorway once you've passed without you taking the pass plus. if there was how would he cope with doing refresher courses for people who haven't been driving for a bit and want to go on the motorway?

i think i may have misread the post, i thought it was asking cant the instructor just issue a pass plus cert without doing the pass plus, if thats the case then i apologize

what i was saying is its illegal to give a pass plus if not done pass plus, but yes motorway can be done after the test with an instructor at motorway costs, i charge £2 more over the normal price to cover the more fuel used

PikeyPriest · 16 Jun 2007 at 10:15

I past a while back but havent driven since. Is there really that much difference between a motorway and a 70mph dual carriageway (which i used for 10mins twice a lesson generally). I havent even given a second thought to motorway driving being any different apart from more lanes :confused:

therealnerd2 · 16 Jun 2007 at 10:22

PikeyPriest said:
I past a while back but havent driven since. Is there really that much difference between a motorway and a 70mph dual carriageway (which i used for 10mins twice a lesson generally). I havent even given a second thought to motorway driving being any different apart from more lanes

Yeah is v different IMHO but you'll get used to it

The Edge · 16 Jun 2007 at 10:40

cyclopopcicle said:
i think i may have misread the post, i thought it was asking cant the instructor just issue a pass plus cert without doing the pass plus, if thats the case then i apologize

No worries

I was just advocating us late starters saving some money and just doing motorway rather than the full blown pass plus. No certificate expected

gareth.e · 16 Jun 2007 at 11:02

cyclopopcicle said:
i charge £2 more over the normal price to cover the more fuel used

LOL

you do realise it's more economical to be driving at a contant 70mph in 5th gear than...

starting, accelerating, then stopping, then starting, then accelerating, then driving for 5 minutes at 30mph in 3rd gear, then stopping, then starting, then nudging forwards, breaking, nudging forwards, then braking then accelerating... etc

????

Dashik · 16 Jun 2007 at 12:10

gareth.e said:
LOL you do realise it's more economical to be driving at a contant 70mph in 5th gear than...

starting, accelerating, then stopping, then starting, then accelerating, then driving for 5 minutes at 30mph in 3rd gear, then stopping, then starting, then nudging forwards, breaking, nudging forwards, then braking then accelerating... etc

????

Not if he drives a longer distance.......

Dashik · 16 Jun 2007 at 12:14

The Edge said:
No worries

I was just advocating us late starters saving some money and just doing motorway rather than the full blown pass plus. No certificate expected

And thats fair enough, If your older it might not have such an inpact on insurance doing pass plus. Similarly how much are you really talking about saving? To most 17 year olds 130 ish for pass plus might represent a lot of money. To most 30 year olds that might not be so much. Either way might it not be a good investment?

Most late starters actullay take longer to learn to drive btw.

You might learn something that could save your life.

Mark A · 16 Jun 2007 at 14:32

Dashik said:
Most late starters actually take longer to learn to drive BTW.

You might learn something that could save your life.

Yeah i think i would have learned a lot faster if id learned when i was 17. Ive been a passenger in a van for the past few years and seem to have picked up loads of bad habits. When i first started i was going to the far right of the road to take a left turn due to having to do that in a long wheel base van

. I'm so used to going faster than 30 it seems like I'm not moving and took some getting used to.

I didn't mean do 2 hours of motorway then get a pass plus certificate just to clarify. Its just i don't really want to pay to drive in the dark and drive in the rain etc as Ive done plenty of that. Id like to have a couple of hours tuition on the motorway though as that would be useful.

I might even just do the pass plus if i pass this time. Ive done some insurance quotes on quinn direct and it saves me over £100 so it would be like getting free lessons.

Dashik · 16 Jun 2007 at 14:42

Mark A said:
Yeah i think i would have learned a lot faster if id learned when i was 17. Ive been a passenger in a van for the past few years and seem to have picked up loads of bad habits. When i first started i was going to the far right of the road to take a left turn due to having to do that in a long wheel base van . I'm so used to going faster than 30 it seems like I'm not moving and took some getting used to.

I didn't mean do 2 hours of motorway then get a pass plus certificate just to clarify. Its just i don't really want to pay to drive in the dark and drive in the rain etc as Ive done plenty of that. Id like to have a couple of hours tuition on the motorway though as that would be useful.

I might even just do the pass plus if i pass this time. Ive done some insurance quotes on quinn direct and it saves me over £100 so it would be like getting free lessons.

Any good ADI will be happy to offer some motorway tuition. But if you can do pass plus and get it for 'free' then that makes sense. I tailor my Pass plus to the pupil if I have taught them from scratch, I just make sure everythings covered.