Patch Panel Installation Query

Scream · 24 Feb 2006 at 23:35

I have a newly built premise which as it stands, has about 25+ x 2-module RJ45 Wall outlets fitted throughout the building.

Each of these modules are connected into a 48 module Patch Panel and there is also a 16 or 24 (can't remember) RJ45 module voice Panel.

I have yet to purchase a router/switch to connect the individual modules of the patch panel to it.

Now what I'm not 100% sure on is the telephone end of things. I believe that to connect the phones up, I have to patch the particular RJ45 data module which will be used as voice to one of the modules on the voice panel. Is this correct?

If so, how does one seperate the voice & ADSL connection like in households were microfilters are used?

Are there RJ45 style microfilters for this situation?

Any help would be appreciated as this voice/adsl seperation is puzzling.

mdjmcnally · 25 Feb 2006 at 13:33

You would plug the phones into one RJ45 socket which is then patched through to the voice patch panel. I am assuming that your voice patch panel is connected through to a phone system here.

You plug the computer into another RJ45 socket which is then patched through to a router/switch. They are physically running over seperate wires so no need to seperate, and so you don't need microfilters.

You only need microfilters where a telephone line is carrying voice and data and need to split them out. In your case within the building your voice is on one Cat5 cable and the data is on another Cat5 cable so no need to filter like at home.

Scream · 25 Feb 2006 at 13:47

So how would I link the router to the Internet to setup the internet connection details?

Do I need some sort of ethernet connection type router?

oddjob62 · 25 Feb 2006 at 13:57

Well i assume you have an analogue phone line that has been adsl enabled (might be different if you are in a serviced office)
Just plug your router into that phone line, connect one of the LAN ports on your router to the switch. Then patch any ports on the patch panel that need to be data ports.

Most voice systems will be using ISDN not standard analogue lines so you don't need to worry about microfilters.

Scream · 25 Feb 2006 at 14:22

I'll have to go back and give a deep investigation.

Either way, a normal ADSL router should be ideal but I really don't think that there was a standard analogue phone line present for router connection.

I'll have a search around the net for any useful guides or setups.

WOMBATWILSON · 25 Feb 2006 at 16:17

best bet is to use the line for adsl for a fax machine that way you can have the line installed in the patch panel so you can plug router in there and then patch fax to where ever you need it

Scream · 25 Feb 2006 at 16:41

From reading the above users replies and guides on the net, the Voice Patch panel is wired directly to an ISDN line.

For the connection of the Router, there should be a connection point in the cabinet which is the ADSL line. Here I will connect the router to that connection point.

So basically there should be two seperate lines with ISDN on one and a standard analogue/ADSL line on the other.

When I started the thread, I was thinking of a home setup where you would just have an analogue line, split using a micro filter to allow router connection and phone connection.

But being an office etc, an ISDN line for the phones seems logical and the analogue.ADSL line for the Internet.

So hopefully when I go back next week for another check, there will be an ADSL connection point in the cabinet.

If not, I'll be confused.