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This on the BBC and all major news networks as of early hours.

Yes cases of animal-to-human of H7N9 have been reported since April, but the weird thing about this is that it is all over the news networks and nothing on the WHO GAR nearly 24 hours later. Normally these are on the GAR before the news gets hold of them.

Makes me think that the WHO are really looking into this one. bit worrying tbh. This nasty little virus scares the bejesus out of me. They are reporting quite a few members of the family are showing ILI, as far as I have read, so many family members showing this has not been reported before, only the odd one or two.

Hope the little sod has not mutated; could really ruin Christmas.....
 
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The article states that the WHO are 'really looking into this one'. I can't tell if you're going for the tinfoil hat angle or the genuine concern about an unfortunate woman who habitually slaughtered chickens and ate them (raw?) angle.
 
[FnG]magnolia;25425146 said:
The article states that the WHO are 'really looking into this one'. I can't tell if you're going for the tinfoil hat angle or the genuine concern about an unfortunate woman who habitually slaughtered chickens and ate them (raw?) angle.
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At the moment the former 'tin-foil hat'. Though it is definitely tragic for her and all those who have been taken in a most awful and painful way by this thing.
 
qqg3 said:
What happened to swine flu or what ever it was called?
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Killed about 15-20,000 people world wide with a fatality rate of 0.03%. In 1918 the Spanish Flu has a fatality rate of 2.5% and killed millions.

Edit: was mistaken thinking the 1918 pandemic was H5N1
 
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qqg3 said:
What happened to swine flu or what ever it was called?
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While it killed thousands worldwide it actually had a fatality rate of just less than 2% (I believe) of those infected. H7N9 already has a fatality rate of around 20%. However, I have read that if viruses do complete a full jump to another species they do tend to drop in their virulence, however I cannot find that to quote at the moment. These things can mutate and do, however they may never complete the mutation to cause sustained human to human transmission. You just don't know. They thought H5N1 (40% fatality rate in humans) was the next 'big one' back in 2005, however it never has made the jump (so far). However key difference between H7N9 and H5N1 is that H5N1 kills the birds as well, H7N9 does not so remains in the bird population.
 
I thought this was going to be about the book by Jonathan Maberry, which is an excellent read btw. Nevermind.
 
RaMDOM said:
While it killed thousands worldwide it actually had a fatality rate of just less than 2% (I believe) of those infected. H7N9 already has a fatality rate of around 20%. However, I have read that if viruses do complete a full jump to another species they do tend to drop in their virulence, however I cannot find that to quote at the moment. These things can mutate and do, however they may never complete the mutation to cause sustained human to human transmission. You just don't know. They thought H5N1 (40% fatality rate in humans) was the next 'big one' back in 2005, however it never has made the jump (so far). However key difference between H7N9 and H5N1 is that H5N1 kills the birds as well, H7N9 does not so remains in the bird population.
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Just want to add btw, that 20% is when all known infected are hospitalized and on respirators and the like. What the hell the fatality rate would be if we were told to stay at home and sweat it out; as would happen if it was a global pandemic. I am gonna guess it would be quite a bit higher.

Merry Christmas.....
 
RaMDOM said:
Just want to add btw, that 20% is when all known infected are hospitalized and on respirators and the like. What the hell the fatality rate would be if we were told to stay at home and sweat it out; as would happen if it was a global pandemic. I am gonna guess it would be quite a bit higher.

Merry Christmas.....
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If you're feeling worried you could always move to Madagascar
 
scorza said:
Yup, this has been the nightmare for years. Time to invest in some surgical face masks.
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Wouldn't help "You" (Or "Me")!

During a Flu pandemic Everyone will eventually be exposed! Masks/Quarantine etc simply slow down the rate at which this occurs (Which is actually of huge benefit because it reduces the number of people, as a percentage of the population, who are sick at any one time so mitigating the social/economic consequences)

But if you are going to get sick (Most don't) you will get sick! If you are going to die (Again, most don't) You are going to Die!

And quite frankly, with Flu there is bugger all anybody can realistically do about it if you cant get a vaccine out in time! :(
 
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