PBX System for around 200 users

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Hi Chaps

My company is looking at a new phone system to support the 3 sites that we have located in the UK. We've had a few 'big players' (BT, Mitel, Vodafone) in to demo and put forward their solutions, which are all equally impressive, but extremely high cost (50-60k'ish over a 5 year period, including support and maintenance).

I've also looked into alternate systems such as Switchvox and 3CX, which in comparison are extremely good value for money, with both solutions coming in at approximately 30% of the above systems, but without compromising on features and functionality.

We currently have a Meridian system in place which is around 15 years old, and costs an obscene amount to support with BT and isn't adding any value to the business. The maintenance agreement is due for renewal in December, typically this is signed over a 5 year term and I estimate that it's going to cost us at least 39k to continue to run the current system for a further term, which isn't acceptable. I'd also love to be able to produce a saving on our projected spend, like with the Switchvox and 3CX systems.

The current system uses ISDN30 lines at each office, which have recently been renewed and are now in contract for a further 2 years, but it's not really the lines and call costs that I'm concerned about at the moment. The weak link in the chain is the way that calls are managed when coming in to the business. We don't have any of the standard features that you'd expect from a modern telephone system (voicemail, call routing based on availability / skill sets etc, digital reception / IVR), all our current system does is manage calls in and out and route around hunt groups. It's a severe limitation and hindrance to a business that needs to move forward and become more proactive.

My question to you guys is very open ended, as I know the above isn't in anyway, shape or form a detailed list of requirements to go on, but gives a generic jist of what we are looking to achieve.

So OcUK, what systems do you recommend?
 
Those costs don't seem bad at all for a proper solution. Do you have a need to any queuing/call centre solutions, call recording or unified messaging?
 
Asterisk?I could give my father a shout and he could tell you if you could do all that with asterisk(linux phone system distro).
I personally don't understand much of this.
 
Asterisk?I could give my father a shout and he could tell you if you could do all that with asterisk(linux phone system distro).
I personally don't understand much of this.

While it works well for small systems (we're using this for a total of 7 staff) i wouldn't reccomend it unless you have the skills in house and are prepared to factor in the cost of managing and maintaning it, so 50-60k is probably reasonably as in a large system it will take quite a lot of someones time to run (plus costs of hardware, interface cards and handsets)
 
When i worked for BT installing the Meridian systems these supported all the features you mentioned that your lacking, and that was some 10+ years ago. I installed many thoughout the Sussex Police and Euro Tunnel networks.

Ive no idea of costs but the small ones were Meridian Option 11's, many many features availiable.

http://products.nortel.com/go/produ...egId=0&catId=-9219&prod_id=16001&locale=en-US

Meridian 1 Option 11C (60-800 lines)
Meridian 1 Option 11C Mini (60-128 lines)
Meridian 1 Option 61C (600-2000 lines)
Meridian 1 Option 81C (200-16,000 lines)
 
While it works well for small systems (we're using this for a total of 7 staff) i wouldn't reccomend it unless you have the skills in house and are prepared to factor in the cost of managing and maintaning it, so 50-60k is probably reasonably as in a large system it will take quite a lot of someones time to run (plus costs of hardware, interface cards and handsets)

And, some crude maths give £50-60 per user per year. Doesn't seem too bad. I could imagine as asterisk system taking up that sort of time(money) to maintain and run in house.
 
I work for somewhere that has recently rolled out a large asterisk solution, including realtime queues, voicemail, many custom dialplans, the lot. We also provide support and training. If you're interested email is in trust.

I'm massivly biased towards open source solutions, but to cut costs and stop a company having you in a vice grip later down the line, as what seems to have happened to you now. Open source has massive benefits.
 
Get quote from Avaya and Cisco if I were you - they may initially come in at £90k or so but they have much bigger margins to be able to cut also - and they are far more reliable than most systems

We just got an Avaya system which apart from the Red Box voice recorder ( due to technical issues with the recorder itself) has been implemented brilliantly by Redwood Telecommunications in central London

Worth getting in contact with Redwood if I were you (and no I am only a very happy customer, I have no other connection with the company)
 
We have a Intertel/Mitel system at work and it is very good indeed, does everything the others do and we found it cheaper.
 
As mentioned, it seems a reasonable price all told for that many users - I'd use Avaya myself, best combination of telephony experience and a sane approach to IP of any vendor I've yet found. But Cisco and Mitel have pretty good solutions too (though I've had more network issues with Mitel than anything else by a long shot).
 
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