PC airflow, parts and performance

I didn't read your posts well enough. I see that your GPU spikes to 100C under load. HW throttling starts at 95C for the 3090, but the boost clock should have been reduced before this. Halving the GPU clock should bring the temp down but if not then it can reach the threshold at which the GPU will protect itself by shutting down. This should be 98C. That will indeed cause an application crash or even a system crash.
Thanks for this. Weirdly, my memory junction temperature has been higher than the hotspot temp. When I hover over it on HWInfo - the note mentions that since it's reading is from inside the silicone, temps tend to read higher and that thermal throttling is expected to start at 110°C. But still, it's my preference to get them as low as possible without limiting too much performance..
 
What NVME drive have you got?

May need a firmware update.

Download a tool kit for your brand (Samsung Magician for example) and it should tell you if one is available/needed.

Does it have/need a heatsink fitted?
Currently running off of a crucial p2 - it's only Gen3 so I think I'm well overdue an upgrade to something a lot faster. Any recommendations? Price not too much of an issue, but the most I'll be doing on it is gaming, a bit of blender - not saving huge files - but also maybe some 4k video editing, so perhaps some quite big files...

Also considering purchasing some 2.5" sata drives for storage of old files, just cheap and cheerful with a good lifespan... Any advice on that would be great - I try to back my phone files up every so often and with the size of videos and photos I take, it can be quite a task doing backups.
 
I have a similar setup for cooling.

5800X w/ Kraken 360 rad. 3080 w/ Eisenwolf 360.

The eisenwolf is a beast! Keeps the 3080 under 60*C under the heaviest loads and for "casual" gaming like World of war ships, with VSync enabled the fan profile doesn't even spin the fans up. Silent gaming.

The Kraken is a waste of time. An air cooler would probably do better. The issue is the transfer from the CPU to the cooler. The temp delta under benchmark load STARTs at like +50*C and gets worse. So if your water temp is 25*C your CPU will hit 75*C immediately under full load. It will then slowly soak rise to 85, 95 and throttle. The water temp is still only 32*C. I don't see the point in this. If the cooler can't get the heat away from the CPU it's a complete failure.

If you can stretch, I would recommend you do what I intend to do, to fix mine. Use the Eisenbar CPU AIO. Then link the two loops and top it up. A proper, copper cooler "should" improve things over a cheap AIO. (A kraken is not cheap!).
 
Yeah, that's what I suspected. With the memory chips on the 3090 on both sides of the card, are there any tell-tell signs which thermal pads aren't properly making contact with which memory modules? I'm unsure which set of dimms would need re-padding. Got a back plate from alphacool that was a bit generic and I'm concerned that it's not quite fitting the PNY card correctly; the instruction manual was very generic and not designed specifically for my card. For clarity, they definitely said it was compatible with my PNY GPU, but clearly the thickness for the memory thermal pads appears to have been incorrect, causing misalignment.

I would email Alphacool. They will know exactly what you mean and may be able to ship you custom pads.

Yes, those pads are critical. Yes they have to accomodate dual sided cards. Mine came for 3080/3090 with 2 sets of pads. The 3090 pads where (in my case Gigabyte Eagle) thinner, but more of them as it has DIMMS on the back side.

The thing is... there is no active cooling on the backside, it's just going to be a thermal pad to a flat sheet of metal. Again I'd ask Alphacool.
 
I have a similar setup for cooling.

5800X w/ Kraken 360 rad. 3080 w/ Eisenwolf 360.

The eisenwolf is a beast! Keeps the 3080 under 60*C under the heaviest loads and for "casual" gaming like World of war ships, with VSync enabled the fan profile doesn't even spin the fans up. Silent gaming.

The Kraken is a waste of time. An air cooler would probably do better. The issue is the transfer from the CPU to the cooler. The temp delta under benchmark load STARTs at like +50*C and gets worse. So if your water temp is 25*C your CPU will hit 75*C immediately under full load. It will then slowly soak rise to 85, 95 and throttle. The water temp is still only 32*C. I don't see the point in this. If the cooler can't get the heat away from the CPU it's a complete failure.

If you can stretch, I would recommend you do what I intend to do, to fix mine. Use the Eisenbar CPU AIO. Then link the two loops and top it up. A proper, copper cooler "should" improve things over a cheap AIO. (A kraken is not cheap!).
Hey man, if I hadn't already got the arctic, then I would have definitely gone for the Eiswolf for both CPU+GPU together. Honestly, I'm really happy with the performance of the arctic; not really had any CPU cooling issues so far. I suppose the only issue is from the thickness of the rad and how much difficulty I had during two triple fan radiators in one case, but that's my fault for not planning on advance and just adding more and more stuff into my case.

Are both your radiators triple fans? What case are you using?? Edit - just saw you said both of us are 360's!!! Nice!
 
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I would email Alphacool. They will know exactly what you mean and may be able to ship you custom pads.

Yes, those pads are critical. Yes they have to accomodate dual sided cards. Mine came for 3080/3090 with 2 sets of pads. The 3090 pads where (in my case Gigabyte Eagle) thinner, but more of them as it has DIMMS on the back side.

The thing is... there is no active cooling on the backside, it's just going to be a thermal pad to a flat sheet of metal. Again I'd ask Alphacool.
Thanks for this. Seems tightening the screws on the backplate made a big difference. Haven't had a crash in a few days now, and temps have fallen in the memory junction by +10°C so I'm happy with that result. Other sensors in the graphics card aren't showing any higher than ~65°C max.
 
Trying to troubleshoot an old nvme drive.
It didn't show up in Windows. Well, in disk management, there's a blank volume that I assume is the NVME drive, but I can't do anything with it.
It didn't show up in bios boot manager, or in my list of nvme/sata drives. However, when rummaging through menus in the bios, there's one place it does show up in bios:

Advanced\NVME an controller and drive information\NVME controller and drive information self test

Here, I can see the model number, device id, vendor I'd, but it says total size: 0.0GB (it's a 500GB drive).

Anyone come across this issue and know of a way I can get this drive running again?

Many, many thanks for any help.
 
Where is teh NVMe drive plugged in?

Some Mobo's have 2 or 3 sockets, but often have restrictions on when and what settings need to be on to use more than 1.

Try re-seating it. Check for BIOS settinngs for it's socket.

Beyond that I would need to go into Linux to find out what is actually wrong with it.
 
Are both your radiators triple fans? What case are you using?? Edit - just saw you said both of us are 360's!!! Nice!

Both 360s yes. If I was to do it again I would probably not both with the 360 for the CPU. With the heatspreader and stuff, I just can't seem to get fast enough heat transfer.

GPU within a few seconds of running FurMark I can feel warm air coming out of the GPU radiator. When it's been gaming flat out the loop temp can get up to 40*C.

CPU... natta. I can pin it with Prime95 until it loses all boost and eventually throttles at 85*C and the radiator is room temp. Putting a thermal couple on it the CPU radiator went up 1*C every 5 minutes. However the CPU throttled by that point as well.

It is a known "hot" cpu. It is overclocked from 4.7 to 4.95Mhz boost. I'm 50/50 as to whether I should try for more of it would just be a waste of money.
 
Where is teh NVMe drive plugged in?

Some Mobo's have 2 or 3 sockets, but often have restrictions on when and what settings need to be on to use more than 1.

Try re-seating it. Check for BIOS settinngs for it's socket.

Beyond that I would need to go into Linux to find out what is actually wrong with it.
If I recall correctly, I tried using it in both nvme slots when the problem first occurred, so I think the fault may be with the drive, rather than the port, but I'm going to play around with it tonight to see...

I heard some asus motherboards have issues with nvme port 1 being used at the same time as SATA port 1, so if that's the case, I'll switch the sata to a different port too.

Just fine it strange that the drive is kind of being recognised in bios, but not everywhere in bios, just the self-scan section.
 
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