PC build help please.

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Hi, I am looking to buy a new PC for gaming but I don't know much about the ins and outs of all the different hardware. I just want a PC which will play pretty much any game I want at the highest settings for the next 5 years or so (this has roughly been my experience with my current build). I had a price figure of around £1,500 but i'm not sure if i'm asking too much for my money there or not.

I need a full build but no operating system required or keyboard, mouse and monitor etc.

Any advice would be massively appreciated. Thanks :cool:
 
Yup, should be enough for a good gaming machine :)

What resolution is your monitor? - also the make and model would be helpful to ensure you're not just tied to an Nvidia graphics cards due to Gsync
 
I just want a PC which will play pretty much any game I want at the highest settings for the next 5 years or so
Well, that's mission impossible there without upgrading at least one part.

Now is pretty much historically bad time to buy expensive graphics card.
Nvidia turns general bang per buck to banged to butt when going to higher models.
And despite of all marketing hype RTX cards have performance crash of 30-50% from use of raytracing.
So no matter how insanely overpriced card you buy, it's likely to look at best "meh" in year for its price.
Hence would recommend now getting good bang per buck GPU for that lowly resolution and upgrading to higher card when prices of next-gen GPU cards have stabilized.
And we have cards actually capable to raytracing...

Also while Intel's advances are only in increasing number of security vulnerabilities, AMD has been going fast forward in CPUs.
So pretty much best bang for the buck path would 8 core/16 thread Ryzen 3700X now and upgrade to 12 core Ryzen (4900?) Zen3 in 2021 when prices of those decreases, like last year's Zen+ Ryzen 2xxx have done.
In year next-gen consoles will bring basically underclocked 3700X as mainstream.
So for that five year time 12 core is needed to stay in high end, where you don't have to worry about background programs like web browsers starting to affect gaming.

Memory is really third thing.
2x8GB is now enough, with only few games capable to benefiting from more.
But if you keep multitab web browser open in background that amount will start dropping fast:
While I used to do multi-tab web browsing with 16MB RAM PC, now memory consumption of multitabbed browser climbs fast to multiple GBs...
Also next-gen consoles likely come with more memory than 16GB guaranteeing increase in memory demands.
Some rumours give PS5 20GB for games (+separate 4GB for OS) which certainly isn't any overkill considering life span of consoles.
So if you want enough memory to last well that five years 2x16GB would be that, with 2x8GB needing very likely upgrade in two years.
 
I currently have a benq xl2420t, so it is 1920 x 1080.

Are you going to be upgrading this?

I just want a PC which will play pretty much any game I want at the highest settings for the next 5 years or so (

Not really happening, particularly with the GP. The Geforce GTX 1660 Super will keep you happy at 1080p for the next year or two. Maybe three.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £796.06 (includes shipping: £11.10)​

The Geforce RTX 2070 Super will keep you more than happy at 1080p for 2-3 years, maybe longer. And you'll be able to explore 3440x1440.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,055.06 (includes shipping: £11.10)​

Add case and PSU to both.
 
Sorry, what is GP? Like i said, i'm clueless here :)

Typo for GPU. Unlike CPUs, GPUs are still on the fast track upwards and you should expect to upgrade a top-end card every other generation (for example I went from a Titan XM / 980 Ti to a RTX 2080 Ti). That's every 3 - 4 years.

Are decent monitors affordable at the moment?

Define affordable. :)

A RTX 2070S will happily drive a 3440x1440 monitor at 100 fps or so. OCUK have a good range. I would look at monitors that support Freesync - GSync is Nvidia exclusive and expensive. While GSync works better than Freesync, Freesync is usually more than good enough, and all future Nvidia GPUs are going to support Freesync.
 
Typo for GPU. Unlike CPUs, GPUs are still on the fast track upwards and you should expect to upgrade a top-end card every other generation (for example I went from a Titan XM / 980 Ti to a RTX 2080 Ti). That's every 3 - 4 years.

Ah, ok makes sense. 3 - 4 years isn't bad, i'd be happy at that.

Define affordable. :)

Well I think my current monitor was around £250 at the time i bought it. I could accept going to £300-400 area if it would make a huge difference in quality. So is that a price range which would buy a good monitor for "most" peoples needs?

I love PC gaming but i hate how complicated upgrading the hardware is for someone like me who has zero interest in staying up to date with the latest innovations. So i'm grateful for people like you guys who try to simplify the process haha!
 
I could accept going to £300-400 area if it would make a huge difference in quality.

You can get a decent 144 Hz 1080p IPS monitor for that money, and I'll let others recommend the best. If you do get such a monitor you should get yourself a Freesync GPU like the Radeon 5700 XT.
 
as around £250 at the time i bought it. I could accept going to £300-400 area if it would make a huge difference in quality. So is that a price range which would buy a good monitor for "most" peoples needs?

I'd be looking at these with your budget:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,214.89 (includes shipping: £0.00)

I'm pretty sure the VG270UP can be had for £300-350 if you shop around.

Pair them with a system with a 5700XT or 2070S and you'll have a very solid experience.
 
I'd go for these over the listed PSU and SSD:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £184.98 (includes shipping: £0.00)

You could also consider looking up "Sabrent Rocket NvME" as an alternative to the Corsair mp510.

I'd also go for this over that AiO:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £46.99 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
 
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