PC Upgrade advice

[hornetstinger]

My existing system is.

Intel Xeon 5670
24GB triple channel
Full tower case
ATI 480
Coolermaster Stacker 810
500GB 2.5" SSD
PCI -E NVME adaptor with 1TB NVME
Noctua heatsink - able to get adaptor this HSF onto new CPU? Unsure of model, It's a large very tower with dual fan
USB 2 front hub
Unsure of PSU, possibly 800W Bequiet or Seasonic
27" 1440p freesync VA monitor, with a couple of faulty LED, will decide if annoying enough to replace monitor

If or when I upgrade will a motherboard, memory & CPU bundle fit ok
I wouldn't mind replacing the USB hub on front with modern 5.25" bay with USB3, USB-2 etc.

Are GPU's still ridiculously expensive or have they dropped down to sensible price?

For best value for gaming, AMD or Intel CPU this gen?
And for GPU, AMD or Nvidia?

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I've just added two CPU/mobo combo of both types, and 32GB memory, just random things to see pricing, obviously not going to order two CPU and two mobo.

 

[sx_turbo]

What budget do you have, and what use case do you have?

The noctua cooler be fine, just buy a fitting kit from them.

Do you want to stick to intel or look to AMD.as an alternative?

GPU wise pricing can be expensive depending what your after

 

[Tetras]

And for GPU, AMD or Nvidia?

It depends, but with the GPUs you have quoted in your image the 3050 is generally regarded as poor value against the superior RX 6600.

The 4060 8GB has dropped to £250ish and that does pretty well against the RX 7600 8GB.

None of those CPUs are what I'd buy for 1440p gaming though, since their lifetime would be very limited at this resolution and rely on upscaling for the latest games.

For 1440p I'd want at least a 6750 XT (they're available around £300), but preferably a 4070 non-Super or 7800 XT (~£450).

If or when I upgrade will a motherboard, memory & CPU bundle fit ok

Yeah, there's nothing special about newer stuff if you have an ATX compatible case.

Are GPU's still ridiculously expensive or have they dropped down to sensible price?

They are WAY better than during the Crypto mining boom, but hard to call them great value. You can get a big upgrade to a RX 480 for not loads, since something like the 6750 XT is way faster than what you have.

For best value for gaming, AMD or Intel CPU this gen?

It depends, but since the general advice is to avoid 13th-14th gen until confirmed otherwise, you're realistically limited to 12th gen or AM5 for a new build (unless the budget is very tight, in which case a 5600/5600X or 12400F build is fine).

What else do you do with the PC?

If you only game, the 7600 is hard to beat and worth it for the longer-term upgrade potential, but the 12600KF and 12700KF are available at decent prices if you HAVE to have Intel.

The productivity performance on the 12700KF is superior to the 7600.

Noctua heatsink - able to get adaptor this HSF onto new CPU? Unsure of model, It's a large very tower with dual fan

Likely, but you will need the exact model to confirm that.

 

[Boomstick777]

"For best value for gaming, AMD or Intel CPU this gen?"

The 5700X3D Cannot be beaten for value VS gaming performance.

If you want latest gen AM5, the 7800X3D is a gaming monster and a fair price.

 

[hornetstinger]

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D Eight Core 5.00GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail

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Asrock B650 LIVEMIXER (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard

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G.Skill Trident Z5 XMP 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 PC5-51200C32 6400MHz Dual Channel Kit - Bl

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Something like that?

 

[Tetras]

Something like that?

Unless those sticks are on the QVL I'd get slower, AMD EXPO memory instead of XMP.

 

[hornetstinger]

ok will check asrock site.

I normally like gigabyte boards, but read they've not been great?

Never had asrock mobo video on youtube recommend that gaudy looking one lol

 

[mickyflinn]

ok will check asrock site.

I normally like gigabyte boards, but read they've not been great?

Never had asrock mobo video on youtube recommend that gaudy looking one lol

This is good value alternative

Asus TUF Gaming B650-E WIFI (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard

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[Tetras]

I normally like gigabyte boards, but read they've not been great?

Gigabyte Gaming X AX is available for £150 and features seem fine for that price, but OCUK have delisted it.

Eagle is another alternative and that is a bit cheaper, but LAN is only 1Gb and most of the rear USB ports are USB 2.0.

 

[hornetstinger]

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Asrock B650 LIVEMIXER (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard

Order Asrock B650 LIVEMIXER (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard now online and benefit from fast delivery.

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[sx_turbo]

?

Asrock B650 LIVEMIXER (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard

Order Asrock B650 LIVEMIXER (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard now online and benefit from fast delivery.

www.overclockers.co.uk

That's come down a lot in price.

The I/o is quite good in that, it's supposed to be built for creatives. Does look quite garish though

 

[hornetstinger]

Quick search for AMD versus Intel and AMD versus Nvidia

AMD CPU
Nvidia GPU

seems to offer best performance/price ie

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D and​

RTX 4060Ti WindForce OC 16GB​

 

[Tetras]

AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D and

yes

RTX 4060Ti xxx 16GB

Very unlikely, they are usually priced too high for the performance they offer. One of the problems is that they didn't increase the bus width with the memory, it is literally just doubled. In some cases a 4070 non-Super is cheaper and they're significantly faster.

 

[hornetstinger]

Is 8gb enough for 2560x1440p? I do remember seeing memory usage on my 8gb reaching max

 

[sx_turbo]

Is 8gb enough for 2560x1440p? I do remember seeing memory usage on my 8gb reaching max

Would be better with 12gb minimum

 

[Tetras]

Is 8gb enough for 2560x1440p? I do remember seeing memory usage on my 8gb reaching max

I wouldn't buy a 8GB card for 1440p. 7800 XT or 4070 non-Super is the minimum I'd be aiming for, or if you can't spend that much, a 6750 XT (should be available near £300, new)

 

[mickyflinn]

Echo the above you can get a 6750xt for a tad under £280 which is very good value.

 

[hornetstinger]

Speccing up a system for someone also, here are two systems, one AMD, other Intel- I have added AMD and Nvidia to each build for him to decide which one. Memory is ok for each? What about monitor (gsync/freesync compatibility) tried to keep similar price for cpu/gpu as possible.

how do you minimise those images lol they're too big

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