PCI-E question

[Kaapstad]

I'd hardly say using the words ignorant, and head buried rude. You say you are aware of the information, but then you were the one who asked why AMD are "rushing out" PCI-E 4.0 therefore making your entire original post pointless, since you are aware it is not solely to do with graphics cards.

My original post was not pointless at all.

Most boards and CPUs AMD sell will go into systems that will never see professional/heavy duty work.

If people took your attitude they would all be going out to buy RTX Titans because the cards have 24gb of VRAM which could come in useful for something involving a heavy workload.

 

[ubersonic]

Sounds like a very peculiar setup you have Expensive GPU, NVME, 10Gb network with I assume an expensive NAS, yet build isn't based on HEDT?

It was HEDT at the time, the option was basically X370 vs X99, I didn't feel like spending an extra £700 on a 6900K setup.

You could argue I paid the price for that by losing 5 FPS and having to put effort into the occasional benchmark, but TBH I'm happier with the £700 and the ability to upgrade my CPU in future.

 

[Journey]

My original post was not pointless at all.

Most boards and CPUs AMD sell will go into systems that will never see professional/heavy duty work.

If people took your attitude they would all be going out to buy RTX Titans because the cards have 24gb of VRAM which could come in useful for something involving a heavy workload.

Seriously, are you going to be that person? You asked why AMD are rushing out PCI-E 4.0, I told you why it was being phased in for the benefit of people not like you, or gamers etc. It is being phased in as part of the Zen2 architecture, which you stated you were well aware of and the entire point in PCI-E 4.0, but your post just went on about AMD GPU's not needing the bandwidth. So yes your post was pointless as PCI-E 4.0 on the desktop is not for 'you' it just happens to be that the underlying CPU will support it due to the needs higher up the chain. You comment about the Titan, no idea how that is even a comparison, since we are talking about a data transfer bus, not a product, you don't just happen to get Titan performance when you buy a GTX 1030, but you will get PCI-E 4.0 if you buy a B550 motherboard and a Ryzen 3xxx CPU. Sheesh

 

[Kaapstad]

Seriously, are you going to be that person? You asked why AMD are rushing out PCI-E 4.0, I told you why it was being phased in for the benefit of people not like you, or gamers etc. It is being phased in as part of the Zen2 architecture, which you stated you were well aware of and the entire point in PCI-E 4.0, but your post just went on about AMD GPU's not needing the bandwidth. So yes your post was pointless as PCI-E 4.0 on the desktop is not for 'you' it just happens to be that the underlying CPU will support it due to the needs higher up the chain. You comment about the Titan, no idea how that is even a comparison, since we are talking about a data transfer bus, not a product, you don't just happen to get Titan performance when you buy a GTX 1030, but you will get PCI-E 4.0 if you buy a B550 motherboard and a Ryzen 3xxx CPU. Sheesh

AMD have got a track record of rushing out new tech that they did not need to and wasting their resources in the process.

Rushing out PCI-E 4.0 is just another example.

Also last time I bothered to look at the subject some manufacturers were thinking about skipping PCI-E 4.0 altogether and going straight to PCI-E 5.0

 

[Journey]

AMD have got a track record of rushing out new tech that they did not need to and wasting their resources in the process.

Rushing out PCI-E 4.0 is just another example.

Also last time I bothered to look at the subject some manufacturers were thinking about skipping PCI-E 4.0 altogether and going straight to PCI-E 5.0

Indeed PCI-E 5.0 is hot on the heels of 4.0 but PCI Sig still have not yet ratified the final draft of the specification and that may not happen until the end of next year, meaning that devices/CPU's would not be on shelves until late 2021/2022. Just because PCI-E 3.0 was around for so long that doesn't meaning 4.0 is being rushed, if anything it is several years late and as such lots of applications have surpassed the capabilities of PCI-E 3.0, which again is why the 128 lanes offered by EPYC was such a relief.

So if you call taking the lead in the market segment where PCI-E bandwidth is need the most, then yes it is rushed. Pretty much exactly what was said about x86-64, it's not needed, what's the point, blah, blah, blah. If it wasn't for AMD you'd be running a single core 32-bit CPU at 15GHz and the IPC of a 1970's calculator on steroids.