PCI-E V1.1 vs. PCI-E V2

[Peve]

I know that this is going to be a tricky question to answer as nobody has used or even seen a PCI-E 2.0 graphics card but I am going to ask it just to see people’s thoughts.

Do you think PCI-E 2.0 is going to be needed for the next generation cards or will PCI-E 1.1 be sufficient? How close are currents card to saturating the PCI-E 1.1 bus?

 

[snowdog]

No, I think it's just a terrible way to force people to get new mainboards .
I think AGP would still be fast enough.

pcie2= A bunch of marketing ******** imo.

 

[Jokester]

Current high end cards are perfectly happy on x8 PCI-E so the next gen of cards will be happy on x16 anyway and maybe even the next generation after that again won't have a significant performance penalty being on PCI-E 1.1.

Jokester

 

[snowdog]

So why on earth, will they make the next gen of cards pci-e 2.0, when they don't need it then?
Is it the reason I mentioned, to force people to buy new mainboards? Thats just cruel .
The trend seems to be to take away the future-proofness of everything these days.

Where are the days where u can buy a board for 1 socket, and have everything work on it of that socket ( ie. a socket 775 board, with support from 533mhz fsb p4's & celerons to 1333mhz fsb c2d's and quads and peryns, together with ddr1-3 support and all gfx card support from geforce 4 to gefore 9 or something?)

I understand sometimes future proofing isn't possible, but why on earth drop support for older stuff, ie. AGP, IDE, Pcie1.0, 533 mhz p4's ?
Dont they understand soem stuff doesn't need improvement yet ( gfx interface, ide/sata interface to name 2).

 

[SkeeterUK]

Its business things have to move along so tech doesnt get stale. Also no one says u have to buy a 2.0 pci e board for the latest cards so just upgrade to them when u feel its right for you.

 

[str]

From what I've read the new AMD boards with PCI-E 2.0 will have BIOS selectable power adjustments so for example you'll be able to configure PCI-E x16 slot 1 to provide 200w if you wanted to and you can turn off the power to the slots not being used.

 

[Jokester]

PCI-E 2.0 is backwards compatible with PCI-E 1.1 so there is no need to buy a new motherboard in the short term.

Jokester

 

[Scougar]

Medium term it may mean slightly more expensive cards I guess, as they will need to put another power path (connectors) on in order to power the card in case it's a PCI-1 board compatible. (That's my guess anyway).

Matthew

 

[lay-z-boy]

THG did a review of the 8800gts (iirc) vs the x1900xt on various bus speeds, the 8 series take quite a hit with lower bus speeds.
pci-e 2 might give a slight boost, it will be like 7800 sli in 2*8x vs 2*16x boards over again.

 

[peetee]

Cant see 1.1 x16 being properly saturated by many anytime soon, 2.0 will become extremely handy as soon as the whole GPU physics thing takes off i think though.
Nothing wrong with technological advancements really is there?

 

[LabR@t]

s939 all the way, now that is a SKU killed off in its prime

 

[snowdog]

PCI-E 2.0 is backwards compatible with PCI-E 1.1 so there is no need to buy a new motherboard in the short term.

Jokester

Yes there is, anyone with an am2 board, a 939 board, a 754 board, a 478 board, a lga 775 with a 975x board, with a 945p board, and anything older is screwed, as it's all pcie 1.0.