Pcie 5 M.2 + GPU Bandwidth Usage

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Hi Guys

Apologies if a bit of a noob question but i am using 14700k with z-790 main board & 5080 fe. I have had conflicting information regarding the usage of the top M.2 slot.

What i have been told by various sources -

1 = If i use the top M.2 slot this ssd will run at pcie5 speeds, however the 16 lanes will drop to 8 for the GPU meaning the 5080 will be running on pcie5 x 8 & not x 16. Due to the high end powerful card this will not affect performance too much at all as pcie 5 x 8 is roughly the same as pci4 x 16. S best of both.

2 = If i use the top M.2 slot this ssd will run at pcie 5 speeds, however the 16 lanes will drop to 8 for the GPU meaning the 5080 will be running on pcie5 x 8 & not x 16. Due to the high end powerful card this WILL affect performance the high-end card requires the bandwidth.

Which one of these is true as i dont see the point in pcie 5 ssd speeds if the expensive powerful gpu is not going to perform. I dont play anything that is too taxing DCS, MSFS, Nuclear Option, BF6 & Arma

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Chilly
 
Which motherboard are you looking at? as this can vary from board to board.

Only reason to get a PCIE 5 NVME drive is if you are moving big files around or doing video editing etc.

If its just for gaming and browsing the web save the extra and just get PCIE 4
 
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1% difference, even with a 5090.

 
Which one of these is true as i dont see the point in pcie 5 ssd speeds if the expensive powerful gpu is not going to perform. I dont play anything that is too taxing DCS, MSFS, Nuclear Option, BF6 & Arma
1. is correct, assuming your board has a PCI-E 5.0 M.2 slot. The performance loss is pretty small, though you obviously need a PCI-E 5.0 M.2 drive to take advantage of the speeds.

There are two main factors in how much performance is lost:
1. The VRAM on the cards (and if the settings in the game exceed it).
2. The number of lanes available on the card itself.

Fewer PCIE lanes and less VRAM = more impact from slot bandwidth.

Big cards are usually less impacted, because they have more lanes and more VRAM.

It would help if you give us the board model. They're not all the same.
 
Hi guys, thanks for the quick replies.

The setup is a 14700k
Asus rog strix z790-e gaming wifi
Rtx 5080 founders edition
64gb corsair ddr5 6400mhz cl32

The board has 1 m.2 slot that is at the top closest to the cpu and gpu slot that is pcie5 +4 other pcie4 m.2 slots
 
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It is primarily for gaming, i will be streaming the games at some point on twitch and a bit of short videos that will require a bit of editing etc but it is really just gaming.
 
Asus rog strix z790-e gaming wifi

The board has 1 m.2 slot that is at the top closest to the cpu and gpu slot that is pcie5 +4 other pcie4 m.2 slots
Yup, if M.2 slot 1 is occupied you will lose 8 lanes from the graphics, but the drive will run @ PCI-E 5.0 (assuming the drive IS a PCI-E 5.0 drive, which I don't know from what you wrote).

These lanes are hard wired too, so any drive occupying that slot will take 8 lanes, it doesn't matter what speed.

It is primarily for gaming, i will be streaming the games at some point on twitch and a bit of short videos that will require a bit of editing etc but it is really just gaming.
If you watch task manager when you're editing it will help you to see if you're SSD bottlenecked, but these drives are generally only noticeably faster when you're reading/writing huge amounts of data to it. That's not something that many workflows will do (or do enough). If you have purchased a PCI-E 5.0 drive, then I'd probably just use it, regardless of the hit to the GPU, since you already paid for it. If you do not have a PCI-E 5.0 drive, then I wouldn't buy one.
 
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