PCSO'S why even bother.

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taken from the manchester eveing news

Police ask 'would you stop to help?' after 'loads of people' walk past two cops being attacked in Manchester city centre

https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...ester-news/police-ask-would-you-stop-16499309

one minor wrinkle at first you think two officers have been setup and taking a kicking by the headline, actually its two pcso's that couldn't restrain A suspected bike thief.

2 of our PCSO's were assaulted this afternoon by a male they were with on Aytoun St who was suspected of trying to steal a bike.

Whilst they were waiting for officers to attend the male swung punches at them before they managed to get him down to the ground - luckily there were no serious injuries.

so ignoring the idiotic question by the inspector, what is the point of pcso's if they arnt physically able to restrain A suspected bike thief, my own experience i have seem some capable pcso's and some down right indept and dangerous ones who shouldn't be playing at being a police officer as they just wouldnt be able to do anything, our local one is a 5ft tall womble who spends all of her time drinking tea and eating biscuits when she's not driving out of the area when her shift finishes.

so why is it we pay these plastic coppers over £20k a year yet they cant do the job?! i know a few coppers are on here so anyone got any views why we dont just employ real officers for the couple of thousand extra it will probably cost ?

 

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I don't get it. The article states that they managed to restrain him, you quoted as such.

What's the issue here? That the Police wanted to know why loads of people walked past without helping?

the issue for me is the fact two supposed trained pcso's (which the police still keep calling officers even though they arnt) may have needed the general public to help them with A person. like i said above maybe they should hire more physically able pcso's or just hire full time officers with the pcso's wage.

PCSOs are paid members of police staff. A PCSO earns £20,115 as a trainee, rising to £22,275 with experience

for that sort of money they should be hiring more capable pcso's.

 

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Can you say without doubt that two fully trained Police officers could have restrained him quicker/better? Of course not, we have little to no information.

Regardless, this is irrelevant, he was restrained, it was difficult and the only reason this thread exists is because a typically shoddy city rag decided to make a big deal over this quote from the police:

yes he was restrained but the way the inspector made it out and with the help of the man evening news you'd think they where getting a kicking from half a dozen people.

and honestly from my experience working with pcso's yes id expected two fully trained officers to do a better job, as id hope they would be taking their physical fitness a lot more serious than some of the manlets playing at being a copper.

 

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Do we have to guess this part or will you tell us? It's perhaps important.

done it in a couple of roles, as a bouncer in public events and the normal weekend idiocy, and also while working at a homeless shelter for long term residents, both had their good and bad interactions with police of all types, pcso's, specials and police officers but the vast majority of bad ones seemed to involve pcso's be it getting physical or generally dithering over what to do in a situation. again iv had good experiences with them but just feel they need a bit more training if 2 on 1 is something the inspector feels he needs to speak out about when the public didnt get involved.