Peckham Hair & Cosmetics - protest over an alleged shoplifter???

dowie · 13 Sep 2023 at 11:38

A common source of tension in both US and UK cities results from Asian shopkeepers operating in black neighbourhoods. This seems to have flared up in Peckham where, from what I can gather a black woman was refused a refund for some hair products, became angry and seems to have decided to help herself to some other products on the shelves. The shopkeeper has then confronted her/prevented her from leaving and got a slap in the face for his trouble then he's put his hands on her.

Unfortunately for him, while grabbing onto her, he ended up momentarily putting his hands around her neck and a short clip missing the other context has circulated claiming that she was "strangled" for simply asking for a refund. Which of course has stirred up a mob...

The clip that went viral + also additional context/footage from an Asian guy in the comments:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1701317457284116889

And a very civilised response from a registered charity here (remember the Buckingham Palace race row? This is the charity run by that woman!)

https://twitter.com/x/status/1701346659911778528

And now there's an angry protest outside the shop and it's clearly had to temporarily close:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1701608800774656436

I wonder if we keep getting boy who cried wolf type "outrages" like these then people will become more immune to the obvious grifting/race-baiting here?

Fortunately, it's not caused a riot but that guy perhaps needs to lay low for a few days now. Also, it seems very dubious that a charity should be acting in such an irresponsible way, they're also retweeting something about black-owned businesses, since when should a charity be promoting racial discrimination in where you shop?

dowie · 13 Sep 2023 at 14:57

adam cool dude said:
It is not a common source of tension in the UK but a common source of tension in London.

And Birmingham, sometimes it boils over as a result:

2005 Birmingham riots - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The riots were derived from ethnic tensions between the Caribbean and British Asian communities, with the spark for the riot being an alleged gang rape of a teenage black girl by a group of South Asian men. The rape allegation has never been substantiated.

That was the result of rumour/race baiting via a pirate radio station rather than social media and in that case no one even knows the girl exists. But once the story was circulating that some guys in the Asian shop had supposedly raped a black girl then it all kicked off.

dowie · 13 Sep 2023 at 15:26

dlockers said:
lol, dude. A sample from 18 years ago, again, where you are grouping an entire continent together to prove a point. The American black asian problem is Chinese folk

Nope, I think you're conflating the issues with assaults in some cities like SF.

The issue with shopkeepers is broader and you'll find various Asian-American groups operate stores in innercity areas where tensions arise, see the below for example.

Complicated relations between blacks, South Asians not likely exacerbated by Ferguson shooting - The Bay State Banner

Despite all the suspicion and prejudice, in hardscrabble towns and neighborhoods, the chances are the shop-owner could be a Indian or a Korean and the customer could be African American or Latino.

www.baystatebanner.com

dowie · 13 Sep 2023 at 15:29

Diddums said:
I wish my life was empty enough to care about things like this

It's OK, you can just pop in and post inane comments instead in between sending someone to go and fix a light or whatever.

dowie · 13 Sep 2023 at 15:38

dlockers said:
You telling me you don't read the "Bay State Banner" for all your South Asian vs. Black ethnic relation news? Outrageous.

You could just see the comments on Twitter or live in say South London and talk to people and you'd be aware of those community tensions. It took a few seconds to find that article, similar tensions exist in the US between shopkeepers and some residents of inner city areas for similar obvious reasons.

dowie · 13 Sep 2023 at 15:41

I'm not sure it really needs a back-and-forth on dlockers being totally oblivious that those community tensions exist, I give you a quick example re: Indian shops in Ferguson and you immediately dismiss it based on the name of the website. Maybe one day you'll learn about the LA riots and dismiss those as a nothingburger too.

But sure, carry on in denial if you like.

dowie · 13 Sep 2023 at 15:44

Chuk_Chuk said:
Considering the discussion going on, I thought I would just leave this bit of their post here.

Don't worry dlockers will be along to deny it soon and Diddums (who apparently left South Africa, famously no community tensions there either between Indian shop owners and the black community) will be back to post in the thread while simultaneously bemoaning the fact the thread exists or people are posting about it (he doesn't quite understand contradictions).

dowie · 13 Sep 2023 at 15:55

dlockers said:
In this post dowie was referring to the Black vs. East Asian issues in the press.

Nope, you just imagined I was, I told you I wasn't and you're just ignoring that an carrying on as if I am anyway.

dowie said:
Nope, I think you're conflating the issues with assaults in some cities like SF.

The issue with shopkeepers is broader and you'll find various Asian-American groups operate stores in innercity areas where tensions arise, see the below for example.

dowie · 13 Sep 2023 at 16:12

The latter bit is why dlockers is posting, he's desperate for it to be locked... I guess it's probably run its course now anyway and Diddums has some lightbulbs that need swapping out so we shouldn't distract him too much.