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Penryn Preview on Anandtech

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preliminary results, I'll admit, and on first cut of a pre-release, but I'm a bit disappointed. The benchies, fps, power consumption, %-improvements: more than a little underwhelming at this stage.
Give them a cycle or two, let's say Q2'08, and we may have something to brag about.
Until then, that sound you just heard was AMD breathing out for the first time in four quarters.
 
mk17 said:
preliminary results, I'll admit, and on first cut of a pre-release, but I'm a bit disappointed. The benchies, fps, power consumption, %-improvements: more than a little underwhelming at this stage.
Give them a cycle or two, let's say Q2'08, and we may have something to brag about.
Until then, that sound you just heard was AMD breathing out for the first time in four quarters.

I think it's pretty much what was expected. I was thinking 5-10% max improvement across the board. As you can see though, some things it improves vastly.

It is getting interesting in the CPU space again for the first time in 12 months :) Bring on the Phenom!
 
Kamakazie! said:
I think it's pretty much what was expected. I was thinking 5-10% max improvement across the board. As you can see though, some things it improves vastly.

It is getting interesting in the CPU space again for the first time in 12 months :) Bring on the Phenom!


I do agree, although I expected a lot more from the die-shrink, but as mentioned above, a lot of the boost seems cache related - and let's see what happens at higher GHz.
Roll on Barca, and the follow-up. Next 12 months look really sweet.
 
I think some of the speed increase will possibly be due to SSE4 and little twiddly bits around other instruction sets, but this was never touted by Intel to be a massive increase, clock for clock, over Conroe.

Yes, they had benchmarks out comparing a stock QX6700 against a 3GHz and a 3.33GHz Penryn, but that's hardly a fair benchmark, is it now?

Wait until Phenom comes out and see how that shapes up before dropping a load (!) on Penryn.
 
People, relax :)
First of all, this is a preview, while clock-for-clock improvements are probably set, there will always be software to be optimized for that.
Second of all, we're on a website called Overclockers, which means just that, the majority of us are gonna overclock these processors. Now if they can get to 3.2GHZ at stock voltage, i'm all set :) My E6400 can't get higher than 3.2GHZ, with voltage cranked up(my motherboards fault i believe, but still).
Plus, we're looking at probably cheaper, higher clocked processors here compared to previous generations, that's good no matter what.

What i'm looking forward to is the integrated controller though, it might just be my imagination, and this is coming from a guy with an intel processor, but when i upgraded from my DDR-400 Athlon 64 3500+ system to my current one it of course gave a huge increase in games, but for the system overall? Definitely quicker, but not like i'd except, and everytime i use my dad's computer, with an AMD processor, programs just load quick etc.
Again, might just be my imagination, but i've also seen benchies somewhere(Pcformat magazine i believe, don't quote me on this) pretty much showing a massive advantage from AMD in memory bandwidth.
So to sum it up, current intel clock-for-clock speeds, + extra GHZ or so, 4 cores + extremely quick memory access = love.
 
Talrinys said:

The integrated memory controller is on the next architecture development... not this one.

Intel's branch prediction (or something like that) in Conroe was VASTLY improved over the P4 architecture which essentially nullified any advantage the AMD64 chips had in that regard.
 
Looks good. You can't really expect huge gains, as it is still the same tech but with just a bit more cache and a few tweaks.

Overclocking is where it should do even better though :)
 
It'll be ages before we see sub £100 Penryn's, the initial release will be top of the range CPUs, £500+ - So the excitment about overclocking them is a long way off, as we all like to run £100 CPUs as quick as £600 CPUs eh.
 
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