Pension fund performance - do you monitor yours, how is it doing, do you actively change it?

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In 2020 during Covid when I had nothing to do, I thought I'd take a look at my pension fund.

I had never really given it a second thought before. It is a defined contribution employer scheme where the funds are taken salary sacrifice, and the provider they chose to run it picked the funds it was invested in, on what they term a 'lifestyle' profile, which means that initially its more invested in stocks and shares, then as you approach retirement age it switches over to safer assets.

Anyway, I looked into the growth I'd had over the 16 ish years Ive been in the scheme, and where it was invested. I was not happy with what I found.

There was a very high proportion of UK equities. I found out that many 'default' funds have this, because the logic was its a UK scheme, for UK employees, and that meant that those people favour UK bias. This immediately seemed crazy to me, as the US has experienced much higher growth. Why would you favour UK equities over faster growing US equities with the US being the biggest economy in the world?

So I started looking into what funds were available. Wow its complex to analyse. Most funds are multi asset so have a mix of all sorts of equities or bonds (or other assets like cash, property) across a mix of jurisdictions. So if you wanted to target a certain percentage of say US equities, or emerging markets, or Japan etc, then there was quite a bit of analysis needed to sort it all out. My scheme had 83 funds to choose from. Each fact sheet gave a performance history, information on what mix of equities or other investments the fund contained and from what jurisdictions, information on the management fees, what baseline the fund was measured against/tracking, and finally a risk score ranging from 1 (safest) to 7 (riskiest).

So I did a whacking great spreadsheet to analyse all this. I listed down every fund I could pick from, and ranked its 5-year performance. My funds were ranked 50th and 79th out of 83 over 5-years.

The funds I was in initially (the default funds from the provider) had given me a total of around 29% fund performance until early 2020 (before the markets crashed when Covid happened). This is 29% over probably 16 years, so an average of less than 2% per year, which I thought was pathetic. The mix of these default funds was 75% equities and 25% cash and bonds. Of the whole portfolio, 32% was UK equities, 12% US, 12% EU and 6% cash.

So I did a bunch of analysis. Initially I was trying to micro manage, by selecting different smaller percentages in a high number of funds. But I pulled back from this idea and settled on a simpler approach with just two funds, both multi-asset funds but one of them is an ex-UK fund, which meant it had no UK equities in it. I could adjust the proportions to get the higher proportion of US equities I wanted.

So I made the switch in October 2020. My new portfolio had 78% equities and 22% cash and bonds, but in contrast to the starting position, now I had 35% US, 19% UK, 14% EU, and only 3.5% cash. The funds I picked were ranked 17th and 29th out of my 83 ranked list.

Since 2020, my portfolio performance has been about 24%, in 3.5 years so nearly 7% a year growth. This is excluding the Covid rebound. But, obviously there were lingering effects of this so its difficult to disentangle it completely.


So why am I posting all this?

The analysis I did was very manual and long winded, because I needed to go into all my provider's factsheets and manually extract all the fund performance data. I need to repeat this exercise now to see if a) my choices were the right ones - have my new funds done better than the ones I moved from in the first place; and b) to see if I need to move to any alternative funds or adjust my mix of assets/jurisdictions.

I wonder if any other people here took a strong degree of control over the pension fund investments and if so, how do you manage it? There are limited tools available on my provider's website hence why I had to do a lot of manual work.

I also remain annoyed at the lack of performance in my scheme over the 16 years prior to my interventions. The missed growth from a poor choice of funds is, in my opinion, bordering on corporate incompetence.
 
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I switched mine out from the default Standard Life ones a few years ago, one had a dip due to Covid but is recovering and the other is doing very well (Pension is split across 2 funds).

I really need to be contributing more to it :/
 
And this is why you should really keep an eye on these things.
For the first 10 or so years, our employee scheme was managed by a trust, there wasn't even an ability to switch funds around. Then in 2015 they switched to an externally managed provider and that's when I gained the ability to self manage the fund allocation.

But the information was abysmal, there was never any training on how to manage your funds or use the provider's website.

In my case I just kinda trusted that these 'experts' were managing it properly.
 
I think we may work for the same company.. I thought about switching mine from the default lifestyle fund to a portfolio that i put together myself but what stopped me was that the default fund has access to money market investments like 3rd world debt that isn’t available if i pick and mix myself.
 
At some point they'll change it so the employer has to pay into whatever pension you choose, but for now they don't do that. So I always have one random pension for the current employer, which gets consolidated after I leave them. Sometimes these pensions offer me a choice, so I'll choose a high proportion of global stocks.

Everything else is in a Vanguard SIPP. I like this because it keeps things consolidated/simple, and it seems safer than depending on random pension companies which go bust from time to time. I have one ETF for stocks, one ETF for bonds, bond allocation increases as I age. I don't regularly look at it, mainly just when I'm transferring a pension in.

Spreadsheet:
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yellow = when I have full NI years
green = when I can start drawdown
blue = when I can get state pension
 
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At some point they'll change it so the employer has to pay into whatever pension you choose, but for now they don't do that. So I always have one random pension for the current employer, which gets consolidated after I leave them. Sometimes these pensions offer me a choice, so I'll choose a high proportion of global stocks.

Everything else is in a Vanguard SIPP. I like this because it keeps things consolidated/simple, and it seems safer than depending on random pension companies which go bust from time to time. I have one ETF for stocks, one ETF for bonds, bond allocation increases as I age. I don't regularly look at it, mainly just when I'm transferring a pension in.

Spreadsheet:
Jpfw0Hf.png

yellow = when I have full NI years
green = when I can start drawdown
blue = when I can get state pension
Interesting that you're ramping up the bonds on a linear profile over such a long time frame. The default 'lifestyle' funds I was originally in did this, but only over the 5-10 years pre target retirement age.

A question I have is what happens if a defined contribution scheme goes bust - is it protected like the £85k per institution government guarantee for savings? If so, up to what value?
 
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Lifestyling? Sounds good in theory if you don't want to take any interest in what funds you are invested in, but sometimes can have serious consequences
A friend contacted me about 2 months ago wondering why her pension pot (~£200k) had lost £34k over a year
Turns out a larger than expected %age of her pot was in Gilts and Corporate Bonds due to the lifestyling, and her pension plummeted when interest rates went up
She's now contemplating working another 2 or 3 years rather than retiring now
She got short shrift from the ombudsman - basically you should have known what you were investing in
 
A question I have is what happens if a defined contribution scheme goes bust - is it protected like the £85k per institution government guarantee for savings? If so, up to what value?

Should be covered by the Financial Services Compensation Scheme (FSCS). However, your investment should be held separate from the investment companies assets, so it can't go bust per se
 
Interesting that you're ramping up the bonds on a linear profile over such a long time frame. The default 'lifestyle' funds I was originally in did this, but only over the 5-10 years pre target retirement age.

A question I have is what happens if a defined contribution scheme goes bust - is it protected like the £85k per institution government guarantee for savings? If so, up to what value?

In defined contribution, assuming your fund is invested in stocks then you actually own the stocks and shares that you're invested in.

If your provider goes bust, the shares that you own will be transferred to a new provider. If the company your shares are invested in goes bust, you lose the funds like any other investments :)
 
I consolidated all my pensions during covid too, firstly all into HL, then later transferred into Vanguard for cheaper fees. I check them far too often but am trying to get out of the habit.
Even though I am late 50's and retired (but not touched my pension yet) I am a lot more comfortable with risk than some of the funds my pensions were in before.
Why is 22% of your pension in cash? Stick it in an 80/20 or even 60/40 if you're risk averse and forget about it.
 
I am in cash and i know this is in effect losing money but i am almost ready to pull it down ,i was a nervous wreck when i had my etfs and did exactly what you shouldnt do, check daily and stress, some days seeing 1000s wiped off ,if i was younger and dollar cost averaging this wouldnt be an issue
 
I am in cash and i know this is in effect losing money but i am almost ready to pull it down ,i was a nervous wreck when i had my etfs and did exactly what you shouldnt do, check daily and stress, some days seeing 1000s wiped off ,if i was younger and dollar cost averaging this wouldnt be an issue
Is having it in cash really the right play? I am a dirty amateur but I gathered that keeping it in some form of actually growing nature was important, crystalizing parts at a time to ensure tax efficiency?
 
I'm ashamed to admit that over the years, life has got in the way of me doing anything more than just paying as much as I could afford into the default company one, which let's be honest, was not a lot. But....I've done that now for nearly 20 years so at least I have paid some in.
However... I need pension advice.

I don't confidently know how many different pensions I have. :(

I've been through company mergers, tupe, redundancy, companies that updated/changed their pension providers and some stuff in between. Consequently, I need to start from scratch and track all the ones I have to my name down. Questions;

1: Is it possible to have 2 or 3 different pensions/pots with the same provider? So for example say standard life. If I worked for a company from say 2005-2010 and it was standard life, then another company 2015-2020 and it was standard life, will that be two different products I assume?

2: I have NEVER consolidated any of my old pensions no matter how small/big. I was once advised by my old man to never consolidate as you lose out. I think this is old/out of date advice and not necessarily the case?

3: How does one track down without question, ALL pensions under my name? i.e. guaranteed that by the end of the process, I will have a list of everything.
 
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