Pentium Questions

[drich290195]

Right thinking about moving from AMD towards intel , have a few questions.

1, What is better a Pentium 4 with 800mhz bus and prescott core, or a Pentium 4 with 533 bus.

2, Would my DDR 333 Ram work with a pentium 4 cpu or would it need changing.

3, Are the celerons any good what are their performane like and what would their amd equivilant be.

Cheers for the help lads (and lasses)

 

[snowdog]

Better to go amd tbh , a64 if on low budget, intel on high budget but not pentium...


1: Prescott is better in some but worse by about 10% in most stuff compared to northwood... 800 fsb is faster as 533
2: Works synched on a 533 cpu, on a divider (slower than cpu) if you get a 800 mhz fsb cpu, but will work either way...
3: No, never get a celeron, dont touch them, theyre total rubbish, comparable to semprons of amd, total rubbish for anything ( my school has them and browsing (rendering of pages) is even highly annoying with them...
Get a athlon64 or at least a pentium 4...

If you're on a budget get a cheap cpu & mobo for socket 939 for an athlon 64... (u wont need new RAM for this)

If you are willign to spend some: get a socket775 mobo, DDR2 and a intel core 2 duo...

 

[drich290195]

Cheers Mate

 

[MAllen]

Celeron - usually called a "Celery" in the trade. This is a pretty good description of their power. Lots of marketing bull in the adverts... but really designed for cheap machines for office work. (And even then they are horrendous to use if you are used to a decent PC)

I normally describe them to my customers as "Take your Mondeo Car Engine... with its four cylinders. Thats a Pentium 4. Now rip three of those cylinders out as it is cheaper to manufacture. That is a Celeron. About as powerful as a Mini Metro. Which is fine as a shopping cart"

 

[oweneades]

Celeron - usually called a "Celery" in the trade. This is a pretty good description of their power. Lots of marketing bull in the adverts... but really designed for cheap machines for office work. (And even then they are horrendous to use if you are used to a decent PC)

I normally describe them to my customers as "Take your Mondeo Car Engine... with its four cylinders. Thats a Pentium 4. Now rip three of those cylinders out as it is cheaper to manufacture. That is a Celeron. About as powerful as a Mini Metro. Which is fine as a shopping cart"

The newest celerons arn't actually too bad. They are no core 2 duo but still quick enough.

I am currently running a Cele D 356(512kcache) @ 4ghz on stock volts and cooling.

The newest models have the extra cache which really helps (512k cache as opposed to 256k cache).
In theory they are now basically a northwood B pentium 4 but with newer instruction sets and EMT64 support.

Just don't use one for encoding.

 

[Darg]

Asrock DUAL-VSTA mobo - £45
Conroe E6300 cpu - £115

Total - £160

This gives you a conroe system that will support your DDR1 RAM, support 2 IDE channels, 4 PCI slots and take AGP and PCI-E.

The board isn't great but if on a limited budget like a lot of people then it is a godsend. It lets you upgrade all your different components over time, RAM to DDR2, HDDs to SATA, gfx to PCI-E. When you have everything upgraded then you can get a good DDR2/PCI-E/SATA only board to overclock everything to its fullest.

The asrock board has a 300FSB max unless you willing to play with volt mods on the board itself. That will still bring your E6300 up to 2.1Ghz