Petition - Save some Dolphins from extinction!!

Haircut said:
But the world now is a world with humans, and anything that isn't adept at surviving in this environment will become extinct.
Why should we try and save them?
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We should try and save them for the same reason dolphins have saved many humans shipwrecked or lost at sea and plus the fact they are nearly as intelligent as humans.

Haircut said:
IMHO doing this is interfering with nature rather than letting natural selection take its course.
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It's not interfering with nature because nature is not killing them we are! If humans collectively didn't over-populate and destroy everything they touch they probably wouldn't be facing extinction. And I have to say with an attitude like yours haircut you would have gone far in 1930/40s Nazi Germany.
 
magick said:
It's not interfering with nature because nature is not killing them we are! If humans collectively didn't over-populate and destroy everything they touch they probably wouldn't be facing extinction. And I have to say with an attitude like yours haircut you would have gone far in 1930/40s Nazi Germany.
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So we aren't a part of nature now then?
Humans, as a species, do multiply and destroy a lot of stuff. Regardless of how individuals behave the species as a whole will continue to do this.
For other animals to survive they have to be able to adapt to cope with this.

You obviously don't like it, but I am looking at this from a purely scientific viewpoint. If those last Maui dolphins disappear what difference would it make?
At the end of the day they are only a separate species because some taxonomist decided that they are slightly different from all of the other dolphins out there.

PS Well done on Godwinning the thread :p
 
Dolphins have saved loads of humans. Just do a google on it.

And its about time we help them out.
 
Haircut said:
You obviously don't like it, but I am looking at this from a purely scientific viewpoint. If those last Maui dolphins disappear what difference would it make?
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That's a very negative view. From a purely scientific viewpoint if you were trapped in house burning down, should anyone bother to rescue you when the outcome may not make that 'much difference'?

The scientific viewpoint is very convenient when you want to avoid ethics and responsibility.
 
Haircut said:
Can someone explain to me exactly why it matters if a species becomes extinct?

Millions of species have become extinct since the dawn of the Earth. Those that don't adapt to their environment die out, those that do thrive.

Sure the environment may be changing due to people, but if some species die out because of it why is this necessarily a bad thing?
There will still be species that thrive and these will be the successful species for the future.
Nature will find a way to keep things in balance and short of not being able to see something in a zoo or feeling bad becuase it has died out what difference does it make to the grand scheme of things?
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Natural selection and evolution has no chance of keeping up with the rate of man made change, so sayings it's natural is not really true.

And the reason it can be a bad thing is if species become extinct, ecosystems break down and in a purely selfish sense we then miss out.

Not sure how effective petitions are but no harm will come from signing so I have.
 
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