Phantom.

DM · 5 Jun 2011 at 20:35

Phate said:

Restricted to 150mph and 5.7 seconds to 60, so its quite nippy just not that fast flat out, mind you its not that sort of car anyway is it.

Phate · 5 Jun 2011 at 20:36

DM said:
Restricted to 150mph and 5.7 seconds to 60, so its quite nippy just not that fast flat out, mind you its not that sort of car anyway is it.

I can't wait to see what a king size mattress feels like launching to 60 in 5.7 seconds!

Scania · 12 Jun 2011 at 12:53

DM said:
6.8 V12 in them, no picture of the engine but i'l take a couple when i get my grubby mits on it.

Well? where are they?

And I want bread!

PMKeates · 12 Jun 2011 at 13:02

Did you know, the Rolls-Royce Phantom has the same gear ratios as the BMW 535d?

I guess that makes the Phantom just as good as the 535d.

beermonster · 12 Jun 2011 at 13:09

hurfdurf said:
Have you ever sat in one?

No and have no desire to either. I'm an avid fan of cars of all shapes, sizes and designs but to me that phantom is equivalent of wearing a gold bar around your neck on thick gold rope chain.

PMKeates · 12 Jun 2011 at 13:10

beermonster said:
No and have no desire to either. I'm an avid fan of cars of all shapes, sizes and designs but to me that phantom is equivalent of wearing a gold bar around your neck on thick gold rope chain.

It isn't at all. It's the absolutely sublime epitome of luxury motoring.

Joshy · 12 Jun 2011 at 13:11

Was.

The Mulsanne has got it beat :cool:

PMKeates · 12 Jun 2011 at 13:14

Joshy said:
Was.

The Mulsanne has got it beat

It hasn't tbh

beermonster · 12 Jun 2011 at 13:18

PMKeates said:
It isn't at all. It's the absolutely sublime epitome of luxury motoring.

I'm not arguing the luxury quality side of it, as I said before I appreciate the build and lavish materials used, but to me the design of it isn't to my taste and answering hurf if i'd ever sat in one I don't see how that would change anything. It just doesn't have classy lines or any interesting design features, which to me is part of the whole package of a car.

Joshy · 12 Jun 2011 at 13:23

PMKeates said:
It hasn't tbh

Oh no you didn't! :mad:

The Phantom is a quality car without a shadow of a doubt but as someone who has been lucky enough to have a sit and play around in both I maintain that the Mulsanne is just something else and that's not me being bias (much

). I'm quite glad they made it so ugly because if it looked a bit more like an Arange I'd be willing to do some pretty unspeakable things in order to own one.

At the end of the day, Phantom. Mulsanne. You can't lose can you?

Joshy · 12 Jun 2011 at 13:26

beermonster said:
I'm not arguing the luxury quality side of it, as I said before I appreciate the build and lavish materials used, but to me the design of it isn't to my taste and answering hurf if i'd ever sat in one I don't see how that would change anything. It just doesn't have classy lines or any interesting design features, which to me is part of the whole package of a car.

Sitting in these cars are what they are ALL about. The smell of the leather, the softness of the seats, the wood, the little touches that make something as simple as opening a vent feel like a bit of event.

DM · 12 Jun 2011 at 14:54

I still havent got my hands on it, tomorrow or tuesday it lands.

As for Mulsanne or Phantom its a the Mulsanne for me, but not until someone else had taken that first massive ass kicking hit of depreciation.

Kingy · 12 Jun 2011 at 15:15

Will had it right before...

"Phantom? Talk to me..."

PMKeates · 12 Jun 2011 at 16:14

Joshy said:
Oh no you didn't!

The Phantom is a quality car without a shadow of a doubt but as someone who has been lucky enough to have a sit and play around in both I maintain that the Mulsanne is just something else and that's not me being bias (much ). I'm quite glad they made it so ugly because if it looked a bit more like an Arange I'd be willing to do some pretty unspeakable things in order to own one.

At the end of the day, Phantom. Mulsanne. You can't lose can you?

I disagree, but then we've had this disagreement before. The Mulsanne looks dreadfully inelegant, especially from the front with the awkward light design and garish lower grille, not to mention having the wrong number of cylinders and turbos. That's enough to kill it as 'the epitome' for me. The Rolls-Royce is the benchmark, if not the very definition of the class.

The dash is also infinitely more refined in it's design. Why does the Bentley have a trillion buttons on the dash? It looks so fussy. The Phantom design is 8 years old yet remains current.

Sukh · 12 Jun 2011 at 16:32

The Rolls steering wheel looks like it was nicked from a van.

PMKeates · 12 Jun 2011 at 16:36

Sukh said:
The Rolls steering wheel looks like it was nicked from a van.

It is rather massive, but then the Bentley wheel looks like it was nicked from the Vauxhall parts bin.

Phate · 12 Jun 2011 at 16:40

I'd go for the Phantom over the Mulsanne, only because I just cannot get on with the front end of the Mulsanne

Skidder · 12 Jun 2011 at 18:04

Good for you DM!

Not necessarily my bag but an impressive bit of kit nonetheless. Hope you like it.

mjt · 13 Jun 2011 at 14:34

What's interesting is you can really see the BMW and VW designers at work there.
E65 7 Series and Phaeton/A8 interiors there..

PMKeates said:
It is rather massive, but then the Bentley wheel looks like it was nicked from the Vauxhall parts bin.

Look more like the one out of the new A6/A8 actually

PMKeates · 13 Jun 2011 at 14:43

mjt said:
What's interesting is you can really see the BMW and VW designers at work there.
E65 7 Series and Phaeton/A8 interiors there..

Indeed you can. However, I feel the more 'boutique' miniamlist opulence in the Rolls-Royce is a more contemporary choice than the attempt Bentley have made to mimic your Grandad's smoking room. As someone who is a self-confessed fan of large amounts of wood, I feel that the Mulsanne interior is just overdoing it a bit.

mjt said:
Look more like the one out of the new A6/A8 actually

Indeed, and it is not a handsome wheel. Very odd proportions and a BlackBerry-esque clicker wheel doing it no favours.