Phenom I and Phenom II, the difference ?

[Dicehunter]

What is the primary difference between these 2 cpu's and whats the peformence increase percentage between them ?

 

[Quixote]

Phenom 2's are a bit faster clock for clock, come with higher speeds out of the box, overclock much better and consume less power. They're all round better chips, although their price reflects this.

 

[Dicehunter]

i think ill just stick with my q6600 G0 when it arrives

 

[veggiemanuk]

i think ill just stick with my q6600 G0 when it arrives

So yet again, another pointless thread.

 

[gareth170]

overclock much better

so far i've found this isn't the case in 64bit os's. its just the same as the phenom 1. in vista 64bit i can only get to 3.4ghz on sock volts (1.35v) on 32bit it can easyly get 3.6-3.7ghz+ on sock volts (1.35v)

but i'm still very happy with it. its so fast even at stock. and the temps are great 26c idle, 35 load @ 3.4ghz.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

The Phenom I is a pretty power hungry beast, bad times considering the performance.
The Phenom II actually looks to be alright power wise, especially with the performance it offers.

 

[Bleek]

You think 3.4GHz on stock volts is bad?

 

[PredatorUK]

I current have a AMD 9950 Quad core Black edition overclocked from 2.6Ghz to 3.0ghz, had to increase voltage though to 1.375 which is still alright. Could probaly go higher but i think its well fast already

 

[gareth170]

You think 3.4GHz on stock volts is bad?

no. but my point is AMD still did not resolve this issue with theses.

 

[Lightnix]

If my temps were that good at 3.4GHz I'd be sticking more voltage through it and whacking the clockspeed way up.

 

[Emlyn_Dewar]

Hardly an issue, how were they meant to fix it? Do you know 100% that the higher clocks were stable on the 32bit OS?

 

[gareth170]

Hardly an issue, how were they meant to fix it? Do you know 100% that the higher clocks were stable on the 32bit OS?

yes it was stable and in 32bit os it clocks between 200-300mhz more. its the same with phenom 1 chips

 

[gareth170]

If my temps were that good at 3.4GHz I'd be sticking more voltage through it and whacking the clockspeed way up.

i know mate. and amd site says the 940 can run at 0.875-1.5V and max temp of 62c.. which is great.


http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=509&f1=&f2=&f3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=&f10=

 

[Final8y]

so far i've found this isn't the case in 64bit os's. its just the same as the phenom 1. in vista 64bit i can only get to 3.4ghz on sock volts (1.35v) on 32bit it can easyly get 3.6-3.7ghz+ on sock volts (1.35v)

but i'm still very happy with it. its so fast even at stock. and the temps are great 26c idle, 35 load @ 3.4ghz.

There is nothing to resolve as there is no issue.
64bit OS puts more strain on the CPU as its using all of its as it were instead of half of it in 32bit OS.

We use some programs over others to test stability as others would not show any instability as they don't push the CPU enough.

The same happens to the GPU when overclocked with some games not pushing that hard & others crashing the gfx card at the same overclock.

An issue would be an unstable CPU at stock on a given OS as that's all they are guaranteed for, and not guaranteed to be stable when overoclocked to the same degree across all OS & applications.

 

[gareth170]

There is nothing to resolve as there is no issue.
64bit OS puts more strain on the CPU as its using all of its as it were instead of half of it in 32bit OS.

We use some programs over others to test stability as others would not show any instability as they don't push the CPU enough.

The same happens to the GPU when overclocked with some games not pushing that hard & others crashing the gfx card at the same overclock.

An issue would be an unstable CPU at stock on a given OS as that's all they are guaranteed for, and not guaranteed to be stable when overoclocked to the same degree across all OS & applications.

so intel chips do the same? some people told me no..

 

[Final8y]

so intel chips do the same? some people told me no..

Intel's chips tend to be more resilient with regards to 32-64 but windows but not always. Its just a side effect of its design.