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Looking at getting the PHILIPS Evnia 34M2C6500, is there any reason not to get this for around £500 instead of something like an MSI model for a hundred or so more?
PHILIPS Evnia 34M2C6500
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Best value oled on the market I reckon.
I'm tempted myself, but quite fancy a 49 inch super ultrawide this time.
I'm tempted myself, but quite fancy a 49 inch super ultrawide this time.
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Not really, I grabbed mine for around 440 quid + got free headphones when an AW3423DWF was like 250 quid more around here for the exact same screen so a fantastic deal all around.
Factory-calibrated (and very well shall I say), 3-year burn-in warranty in Europe, really unobtrusive design and unlocked rgb colour adjustment unlike Evnia 8600 (the white one).
Build quality is solid, the stand could've been better but it's hard to fault it at this price especially that it's the only monitor with built-in bias lighting. AmbiGlow is pretty **** in follow mode because it's not smooth enough and doesn't work properly with HDR content but set to static white, it's STRONG and leagues above every other monitor rgb.
It lights up a sigjificant portion of the wall in my case and almost reaches the ceiling. Not only does it look great but also reduces eye strain. If you have it close to the wall, there's no need for rgb strips of any sort.
This Evnia is slept on and the way I see it, all these monitors have the EXACT SAME gen 1 panel so just grab the cheapest one and enjoy.
It doesn't have any serious flaws except a slightly clunky menu and in some regards actually offers more than the competition. The rest of the shortcomings are universal for QD-OLED.
Factory-calibrated (and very well shall I say), 3-year burn-in warranty in Europe, really unobtrusive design and unlocked rgb colour adjustment unlike Evnia 8600 (the white one).
Build quality is solid, the stand could've been better but it's hard to fault it at this price especially that it's the only monitor with built-in bias lighting. AmbiGlow is pretty **** in follow mode because it's not smooth enough and doesn't work properly with HDR content but set to static white, it's STRONG and leagues above every other monitor rgb.
It lights up a sigjificant portion of the wall in my case and almost reaches the ceiling. Not only does it look great but also reduces eye strain. If you have it close to the wall, there's no need for rgb strips of any sort.
This Evnia is slept on and the way I see it, all these monitors have the EXACT SAME gen 1 panel so just grab the cheapest one and enjoy.
It doesn't have any serious flaws except a slightly clunky menu and in some regards actually offers more than the competition. The rest of the shortcomings are universal for QD-OLED.
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Buzzing sound from mine, would be the only complaint, when powering on and it not going into pixel refresh unless I have my pc turned on.
Otherwise great value display.
Otherwise great value display.
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I'm also looking at the 34M2C6500. but currently using a 27" Samsung VA so not sure if I 'need' and ultrawide. But there is the 27M2N8500 which isn't ultrawide but is the same price. However, I can't see myself using 360Hz frequency for gaming.
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If you'll use it for watching movies/tv shows and mutli tasking UW easy winner. If you're happy with 27" then 360hz oled is also an incredible upgrade for general desktop usage + gaming, as you can set it to 120/240hz as well.
Oh yeah, pixel refresh only working when PC is turned on is annoying, forgot about that. Mine doesn't buzz at least
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I contacted Philips this morning to see what they said about the UK warranty and 'EU Region' burn in coverage. I'll post in here when I get a response.
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"Thank you for contacting Philips.
We have consulted this with the relevant department, and they have confirmed all of our OLED and QD OLED monitor screens have burn in protection, in the EU and UK region."
I called to clarify and support said as long as you carry out the pixel refresh request (approx. 4 hours of continuous use) and do not continuously defer it. If you do get burn in they would ask for a particular screenshot and assess the defer behaviour. If its normal then they would look to replace the panel. If its not normal then it would be a further discussion. He also said it can refresh when the monitor is in standby, but I can't validate that.
We have consulted this with the relevant department, and they have confirmed all of our OLED and QD OLED monitor screens have burn in protection, in the EU and UK region."
I called to clarify and support said as long as you carry out the pixel refresh request (approx. 4 hours of continuous use) and do not continuously defer it. If you do get burn in they would ask for a particular screenshot and assess the defer behaviour. If its normal then they would look to replace the panel. If its not normal then it would be a further discussion. He also said it can refresh when the monitor is in standby, but I can't validate that.
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A few questions if you don't mind:
- Have you tried the Evnia Precision software?
- Is text clarity OK?
- What video card are you using?
Shockingly good deal tbh, Philips are often overlooked in these markets but they offer fantastic bang for the buck while matching or exceeding over more popular brands. Their customer support is spot on too in my experience, I had to deal with an in warranty screen fault with a TV a little over a year ago and it was one of the easiest experiences I've had in regards to that sort of thing.
Sure, I'd used the software to update the firmware but uninstalled it afterwards since it was somewhat sluggish and I didn't really need it for anything.
Text clarity is the same as on every other qd-oled with this subpixel layout so the resultant colour fringing is noticeable and might be distracting for some but I find it less jarring now.
I'm currently using a 4070 on the latest drivers.
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Was all set to pick one up and now out of stock everywhere Typical
Typical
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Notice the AOC Agon oled can be had for £548. Seems to use the same panel as the Phillips. Not sure how it compares? Reviews are a bit thin on the ground.
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I bought the MSI 341CQP back in August and have a very slight buzzing too, though fortunately it's so quiet I don't notice it with the PC on as it's masked by the idle fans (which are pretty quiet themselves).
The Phillips looks like excellent deals, and I'm envious of the backlight! Love mine though, even though the gen 1 panels don't have the clearest text I use mine primarily for gaming so it's not an issue.
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I've looked at the MSI, looks good, but is it worth the extra money over the AOC or Phillips do you think? Same panel on all three I think.
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Hard to say, I suppose the differences will come down to the factory calibration and how they've tuned the colours, then the additional features (ports etc). The Philips wasn't available when I bought mine, which I bought on the strength of the TFTCentral review.
Unless there are glaring issues with the Philips or AOC then I don't think you'd see much difference with the panel being the same.
One slight irritation to note with the MSI is that some of the OLED Care 2 (burn in protection) features aren't available with VRR turned on, something the other two may not suffer from.
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I bought the MSI 341CQP over the Evnia for a few reasons;
No joke though, the Ambilight on the Evnia was very tempting
- Better OLED care features
- HDMI 2.1 (you won't get 10/12 bit colour with 175hz over DP 1.4 or HDMI 2.0, unsure if the Evnia has DSC)
- Peak 1000 as well as True Black 400 options
No joke though, the Ambilight on the Evnia was very tempting
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The Evnia has both Peak 1000 and TB400 (recommended) and a couple of other modes on top of that.
However, it's mostly a gimmick, just like on the MSI. Those modes are innacurate and you'll rarely meet the conditions to get to 1000 nits without heavy ABL kicking in so it's hardly a deciding factor and you're better off sticking to TB400 in 95% of cases as it's brighter at higher APL.
The OLED care on Philips is enough, pixel shift, auto-dimming etc. and it works with vrr normally, plus the pixel refresh pop-up is on the right side of the screen and you can either disable it or skip it by doing nothing, not sure what it's like on the MSI.
Realistically, HDMi 2.1 is the only true advantage and Philips should've had that but 8bit is not a big deal unless you do professional work so I gladly took a better price, free bias lighting and a pair of headphones
However, it's mostly a gimmick, just like on the MSI. Those modes are innacurate and you'll rarely meet the conditions to get to 1000 nits without heavy ABL kicking in so it's hardly a deciding factor and you're better off sticking to TB400 in 95% of cases as it's brighter at higher APL.
The OLED care on Philips is enough, pixel shift, auto-dimming etc. and it works with vrr normally, plus the pixel refresh pop-up is on the right side of the screen and you can either disable it or skip it by doing nothing, not sure what it's like on the MSI.
Realistically, HDMi 2.1 is the only true advantage and Philips should've had that but 8bit is not a big deal unless you do professional work so I gladly took a better price, free bias lighting and a pair of headphones
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Due to lack of availability on the Phillips and price of the MSI, I ordered an AOC AG346UCD for £544.