Philips Hue - Play HDMI Sync Box

5punk3monk3y said:
Dual HDMI output AVR.. a bigger issue though is if you use the built in TV apps.
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Yes, I was thinking of using HDMI output 2 of my receiver, and having a separate HDMI input on my TV to switch between when I want it on or off. I am wondering if it will literally just use the signal for whatever is playing and pick it up?

I use apps on my Shield TV, so shouldn't be a problem there?

My TV is a LG - OLED65C7V and supports HDR10 and Dolby Vision, if it isn't compatible with those, will the lights literally not work with HDR10/Dolby vision content?
 
The box *should* pick up hdr10 so the lights will work however I don't think HDR will make much difference to the lights.

The big issue is passing DV to the tv if it's not supported also for me due to the audio sync issue with an ATV, Denon AVR and LG Oleds I have my ATV directly in to the tv then ARC back to the AVR. If the box does support DV then I can integrate it, hopefully it will also be Harmony supported.
 
5punk3monk3y said:
The box *should* pick up hdr10 so the lights will work however I don't think HDR will make much difference to the lights.

The big issue is passing DV to the tv if it's not supported also for me due to the audio sync issue with an ATV, Denon AVR and LG Oleds I have my ATV directly in to the tv then ARC back to the AVR. If the box does support DV then I can integrate it, hopefully it will also be Harmony supported.
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You seem to have a fairly similar setup to me.. Although what is an ATV? I don't think the lights will be picked up on HDR10+ and DV unfortunately - which is a massive oversight.

I use a NVIDIA SHIELD TV at the moment, but wonder if getting a DV ready streaming box might be worth it.. Is DV on a OLED65C7V a noticeable enough upgrade? I feel like I might as well utitilise it's features!
 
pcfarrar said:
A new Hue Play HDMI Sync Box with 4 HDMI ports to sync your lights with your TV has just been announced. Not exactly cheap but it does support HDMI 2.0b and 4K HDR 60Hz. Lack of HDR10+/Dolby Vision is an issue though.

https://www2.meethue.com/en-us/p/hue-hdmi-sync-box-/046677555221

https://www.theverge.com/platform/a...sync-box-philips-hue-play-hdmi-passthrough-4k
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The main problem for me is that it can only use over priced Hue lights.
I have both Z-Wave and Hue(Zigbee) lights\leds
 
Seems okay though overpriced.

While my TV does have all the apps built in, I do also connect a PC via HDMI to TV fine and sync works great for gaming. However content such as Netflix and Amazon Prime etc seem locked down and the Sync app comes up with a message mentioning it cannot respond to that content, I assume protection to minimise piracy. I really expect people playing that sort of content even off an external device may get caught out thinking those apps will sync (unless something is changing with this box?) Will be nice for consoles and that though.
 
So I got a Sync box and 2 play bars in a good deal.

It's better then I first thought.

But I'm having a problem with the HDMI picture settings.

On the Sync box HDMI 1 is for my pc, HDMI 2 is for my 4K blu ray player, HDMI 3 is for my 4K fire stick.
If I go from my PC to Blu ray player the HDMI settings do not change.

So I put all the settings for the blu ray player right and the light show was great.
But. When I switch back to my PC, it kept the settings from the Blu ray player!

And it's peeing me off changing the HDMI settings on my TV every time I change to a different HDMI source.

Does anyone know how I can keep the settings for each HDMI source?

Thanks and Merry Christmas.
 
Does your TV allow you to store different picture settings in the picture presets menu such as Cinema, User, etc? At least then you only need switch preset rather than dialling in all the individual settings as your post seems to suggest.

deuse said:
It's better then I first thought.
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A minor point, but the word you needed there is than. We use it when comparing two things. "It's bigger than a house." or "It's better than sliced bread."

We use then when we talk about time and sequences of events.
e.g. "We stopped over at Singapore, then flew on to Sydney"

Back on point; have a look at your TV picture menus to see which ones are fully adjustable, then just change the preset each time. That will be better than dialling in all the settings every time.

Merry Christmas eve :)
 
lucid said:
Does your TV allow you to store different picture settings in the picture presets menu such as Cinema, User, etc? At least then you only need switch preset rather than dialling in all the individual settings as your post seems to suggest.



A minor point, but the word you needed there is than. We use it when comparing two things. "It's bigger than a house." or "It's better than sliced bread."

We use then when we talk about time and sequences of events.
e.g. "We stopped over at Singapore, then flew on to Sydney"

Back on point; have a look at your TV picture menus to see which ones are fully adjustable, then just change the preset each time. That will be better than dialling in all the settings every time.

Merry Christmas eve :)
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My 75ZD9 only has settings for each HDMI input.
But it has a load of them :)

Called Philips and they will look in to it.

Thanks.
 
deuse said:
Called Philips and they will look in to it.
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The issue you're having is with your TV. Your TV is a Sony.

What exactly are you expecting Philips to do to fix the issue with your Sony TV?


Many new-ish TVs will recognise the difference in resolution, and in refresh rate and whether the signal has HDR via a single HDMI input. This then allows the TV to switch to a picture mode specific to that source signal. My Pana GX800 works in exactly this way and so do many of the other TVs I have installed and set up.

The three obvious limitations are (1) that the TV has to have the feature, and (2) the source signals need to be different from each other, and (3) the picture modes need to be set up accordingly.

Say you have your Firestick set to convert everything to 60Hz, but the BD player outputs films at 24Hz, then that should be enough to differentiate the two signals and trigger the loading of a specific picture memory even though those two signals come in via a single HDMI input. Ditto on the change of resolution. But where the signals look the same (i.e. both 1080p and 24Hz) then there's nothing to tell the TV to treat them differently. This is where the TV needs to be manually controlled to switch picture mode.

The Sync Box is just a HDMI switch. It shouldn't be changing the picture at all. In essence then this is the same as unplugging one source from the HDMI input on your TV and connecting a difference source in its place.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree expecting Philips to do something with the Hue Sync Box when your issue relates specifically to the TV and how it handles signals. Maybe you need to have a look at the TV instructions.
 
lucid said:
The issue you're having is with your TV. Your TV is a Sony.

What exactly are you expecting Philips to do to fix the issue with your Sony TV?


Many new-ish TVs will recognise the difference in resolution, and in refresh rate and whether the signal has HDR via a single HDMI input. This then allows the TV to switch to a picture mode specific to that source signal. My Pana GX800 works in exactly this way and so do many of the other TVs I have installed and set up.

The three obvious limitations are (1) that the TV has to have the feature, and (2) the source signals need to be different from each other, and (3) the picture modes need to be set up accordingly.

Say you have your Firestick set to convert everything to 60Hz, but the BD player outputs films at 24Hz, then that should be enough to differentiate the two signals and trigger the loading of a specific picture memory even though those two signals come in via a single HDMI input. Ditto on the change of resolution. But where the signals look the same (i.e. both 1080p and 24Hz) then there's nothing to tell the TV to treat them differently. This is where the TV needs to be manually controlled to switch picture mode.

The Sync Box is just a HDMI switch. It shouldn't be changing the picture at all. In essence then this is the same as unplugging one source from the HDMI input on your TV and connecting a difference source in its place.

I think you're barking up the wrong tree expecting Philips to do something with the Hue Sync Box when your issue relates specifically to the TV and how it handles signals. Maybe you need to have a look at the TV instructions.
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They emailed me back. And agree it's not doing what it should.
And my TV is on the list of compatible TVs so there should be no problem. ;)

My other 4K HDMI switch does not do this. So it's not my TV.
So what I am going to try is to connect things back to the 4K HDMI switch, then connect that to the Hue sync, then to the TV.

If that does not work, I will either send it back or hope support can fix it.
It is good when it works.
 
deuse said:
They emailed me back. And agree it's not doing what it should.
And my TV is on the list of compatible TVs so there should be no problem. ;)
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Well that's really odd then. I wonder if there's some relevant info that you've left out, because what you've described here is to do with signal recognition within a TV.

I am curious now; are you saying that the Sync Box is actively changing the format of any incoming signal as it passes through the device?
 
lucid said:
Well that's really odd then. I wonder if there's some relevant info that you've left out, because what you've described here is to do with signal recognition within a TV.

I am curious now; are you saying that the Sync Box is actively changing the format of any incoming signal as it passes through the device?
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As I have said.

If I go to the HDMI input for my 4K blu ray player on the sync box.
Everything is ok. But. If I then change HDMI to say my PC.

The settings are still the same as they was for the Blu ray. color\contrast 80% brightness 100%.
This is not right.

Going to try something over the holiday period.
But watching the Mandalorian with the lights syncing is awesome :)
 
deuse said:
If I go from my PC to Blu ray player the HDMI settings do not change.

So I put all the settings for the blu ray player right and the light show was great.
But. When I switch back to my PC, it kept the settings from the Blu ray player!

And it's peeing me off changing the HDMI settings on my TV every time I change to a different HDMI source.
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like lucid said if you change the input on the sync box the tv may not realise it is a different type of source,
it's down to the tv if it can discrimate the change and allow different pitcture settings when you switch input on the sync box
PC usually aren't using hdcp, so , if the problem is unique to pc driving the sync box maybe that's related; can you switch the pc to 4:4:4, rather than 4:2:0 blue ray is proably using. ?
 
jpaul said:
like lucid said if you change the input on the sync box the tv may not realise it is a different type of source,
it's down to the tv if it can discrimate the change and allow different pitcture settings when you switch input on the sync box
PC usually aren't using hdcp, so , if the problem is unique to pc driving the sync box maybe that's related; can you switch the pc to 4:4:4, rather than 4:2:0 blue ray is proably using. ?
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Thanks.

I already said that I have a 4K HDMI switch that works perfectly fine.
That's how I know it's not the TV.

Merry Christmas :)
 
I'm thinking of connecting a sync box to the HDMI Monitor 2 on a Denon X4400H AV Receiver.
This output isn't currently used for anything as the TV is connected to HDMI Monitor 1 (ARC).
This should still work even though there won't be anything connected to the output from the sync box? Thanks
 
I saw this in the store and looked cool BUT it's already way out of date, such is the pace of tech

it doesn't support hdmi 2.1, Freesync or Gsync which makes it impossible to use for me and at its high price Philips needs to release an updated version
 
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