Photoshop PC spec - what do you think?

[andy1231239]

Hi,

My colleague uses Photoshop & InDesign and their current PC struggles with A3 or larger which is a problem, as he works with large files. Looking to get them a new PC and we have been offered the below quote.

What do you think of the following spec? Compatible? Value for money?

Case PCS 6003B BLACK CASE
Processor (CPU) AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core CPU (3.6GHz-4.4GHz/36MB CACHE/AM4)
Motherboard Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE: DDR4, USB 3.1 - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM) 64GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (4 x 16GB)
Graphics Card 4GB AMD RADEONTM RX 570 - HDMI, DP - DX® 12
1st Storage Drive 240GB ADATA SU630 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W)
2nd Storage Drive 2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA 2.5" SSD, (upto 560MB/sR | 540MB/sW)
3rd Storage Drive 2TB SEAGATE BARRACUDA 2.5" SSD, (upto 560MB/sR | 540MB/sW)
RAID RAID 1 (MIRRORED VOLUME - 2 x same size & model HDD / SSD)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply CORSAIR 450W VS SERIESTM VS-450 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable 1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling CoolerMaster MasterLiquid Lite 120 High Performance Liquid Cooler
Thermal Paste ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
Sound Card ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking WIRELESS INTEL® Wi-Fi 6 AX200 2,400Mbps/5GHz, 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD +
USB/Thunderbolt Options MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence [KUK-00001]
Warranty 3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time Standard Build - Approximately 12 to 14 working days

Total Order Price Ex VAT £1,306.67
Total VAT (20%) £261.33
Total Order Price £1,568.00

Many thanks!

 

[ExRayTed]

Save some money and build it yourself, you get more for the money.

My basket at Overclockers UK:

• 1 x MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard= £94.99
• 1 x AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Eight Core 4.4GHz (Socket AM4) Processor - Retail= £299.99
• 2 x Patriot Viper Steel 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C16 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit (PVS432G320C6K)= £119.99
• 1 x PowerColor Radeon RX 570 Red Dragon 4096MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card= £124.99
• 1 x Seasonic Core Gold GM-500 500W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply= £62.99
• 1 x TeamGroup 1TB Vulcan SSD 2.5" SATA 6Gbps 3D NAND Solid State Drive= £89.99
• 2 x Seagate 2TB BarraCuda 7200RPM 256MB Cache Internal Hard Drive (ST2000DM008)= £50.99
• 1 x Phanteks Eclipse P300 Glass Midi Tower Case - Black= £54.95
• 1 x Alphacool Eisbaer 280mm CPU AIO Water Cooling Unit - Black= £119.99

Total: £1,204.55 (includes shipping: £14.70)​

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[EsaT]

Only MSI B450 boards are really worth their price.
Gigabytes (except mini-ITX) and almost all Asus B450 have basically scam level CPU-VRM unable to properly support all claimed CPUs.
Though 3700X isn't too power hungry for it, that would be still paying price of proper board from substandard one.
(again in X570 MSI is the worst)

MSI B450 Carbon would also have Wifi (if it's needed) for likely less than what that substandard Gigabyte and separate Wifi card cost.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-...ocket-am4-ddr4-atx-motherboard-mb-33s-ms.html
With separate Wifi card MSI B450 Gaming Plus/Tomahawk or mATX Mortar would all punch that Gigabyte to nose in VRM quality.


RAID isn't backup, because user error, malware, or serious hardware failure can destroy data of both drives simultaneously.
So would be better to have good SSD for OS and under work files, with HDD as longer duration storage and external drives as back up.

Corsair VS is very cheapo PSU totally out of place in that price level PC.
Just for comparison it would have been outdated cheapo already 10 years ago.


And regardless of marketing BS waterpipes in place of heatpipes don't make heat disappear anywhere "automagically".
That heat has to be always dissipated into air, which needs lots of surface area.
Hence that Coolerhamster tinyliquid gets beaten in continuous cooling per noise by cheaper heatpipe coolers and plain destroyed by same price coolers like Scythe Mugen 5.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/scythe-scmg-5100-mugen-5-rev.b-cpu-cooler-hs-046-sy.html
Well, only PCGH edition with two slow fans (=very low noise) and lower cooling performance than standard version is in stock, but it would be well enough for just 3700X.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/scythe-scmg-5pcgh-mugen-5-pcgh-edition-cpu-cooler-hs-047-sy.html

Besides unlike waterpipe coolers heatpipe coolers are extremely reliable no matter the length of time, because heatpipes don't have any intrinsic own failure mechanisms.
And only possible failure, that of fan still leaves some cooling power, instead of dropping it to zero.