Piledriver stacking up

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Lets see if we can't inject some positive AMD news in here.

The first (indications) of Bulldozers replacement (Piledriver) are out. so how does it stack up?

First Per-Core Performance Bulldozer

iTunes.

All @ 3.3Ghz

1# i7 2600K = 1.09

2# x6 1100T = 1.35

3# FX-8150 = 2.03

Piledriver core vs Bulldozer core @ 3.8Ghz

3.8Ghz is stock for this Piledriver core (without Turbo core)
As you can see the performance is up 15% clock for clock and core for core.
The FX-8150 runs 3.6Ghz stock. so take off about 8% to BD's 3.3Ghz iTunes time and you get about 1:54. (114sec + 8% = 123sec)
Trinity stock is 1:31, thats 26% faster overall than Bulldozer (91sec + 26% = 114sec)

The new chart now looks like this

(all CPU's at stock)

1# i7 2600K = 1:08

2# Piledriver = 1:31

3# x6 1100T = 1:35

4# FX-8150 = 1:54

As you can see the FX-8150 is about 40% behind the 2600K and Piledriver now replaces the x6 1100T in second place (all be it by about 2%)
Its a vast improvement on Bulldozer, keep in mind that Trinity has no L3 and that the FX-8350 is likly to be clocked at 4Ghz stock, the indications are a real gain on Thuban even if its not a big one.

Multithreaded Productivity

FX-8150 = 1:50

Trinity

Piledriver Core = 3:0

Its difficult to predict Core scaling, But Trinity has 50% less cores than the FX-8150 and again no L3 cache, if one was to double it up the FX-8350 would score 1:30, be that as it may it actually beats the 2600K. i would say its probably a dead match., perhaps slightly better, certainly it would continue to out class the Thuban and 2500K.

That's just a couple, but there is plenty more there, if you take your time and think you can see the Piledriver core is a vast improvement over Bulldozer, its even an Ivy Bridge vs Sandy Bridge level of improvement over Thuban (tho not in all areas), a step in the right direction...

 

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I can't wait to see it out and then we can see what it'll really do. I know we're going off that 1 Trinity test from Tom's hardware but if that replicates into the full Piledriver CPU then it will be interesting to see how it fares against Sandy and Ivy. It'll have the multi-threaded performance but if it can pull back some ground in single core software it'll be great for the competitiveness of the CPU market in general.

Unfortunately they are the only ones which have a Desktop Trinity CPU, so far.

But at least we can compare using the same reviewers making the same benches.

There is also a larger selection of Mobile Trinity reviews, they also suggest the same thing this one review does, the Piledriver Core absolutely hammers Bulldozer.

 

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Late this year. Hopefully.

 

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The problem AMD have is that all Intel need to do is lower 3930K to ~£250 and AMD will be playing catch up again, that's a 50% performance improvement for Intel right there.

Yeah, though i would think they would only do that if they loose significant sales to AMD, which probably isn't going to happen, AMD might improve their sales with this. but i doubt it will scratch let alone dent Intel's vast sales.

 

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I think they need to concentrate on getting the performance up on one core before they start adding yet more cores lol....

 

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one thing they could do right would be not to do away with the solder and use cheap tim on the heat spreader lol.

Again yeah.... its not very often you see Intel making mistakes these days, but that is one blunder and one would think AMD are very very aware of it.

Unless they are catastrophically dumb, they will continue to solder their DIE cap to the heat spreader.

 

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Yep, Adobe CS6 a clear win for Trinity, also seems better in CS5 http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-trinity-apu,review-32476-4.html

Main Concept and Handbreak also a win for Trinity, http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-trinity-apu,review-32476-7.html <- iTunes, Trinity in that looks closer to Sandy Bridge than the BD FX did.

Now, no one get the wrong idea Piledriver is essentially the same architecture as Bulldozer.
you can see that if you look thought the pages in these links, you can see it still falls flat on its face in some things against the K10 arch. what it probably will do is out class Bulldozer, overclock well, beat Phenom II with some things, others not.

We will not know for sure until the actual FX Piledrivers are tested, which are likely to differ from Trinity, one would think in a positive way as they will have the (high end chip features) the fact that Trinity muscles its way past Bulldozer without some of those things sure is encouraging (2 fold)

Edit... hmmm ya, here it is again, Piledriver = 1:27 @ 3.8Ghz vs Bulldozer = 2:03 @ 3.3Ghz