piracy on pc

mythicdawn07 · 22 Nov 2010 at 12:38

Ozzie Dave said:
One thing I completely agree with is the creativity and innovation has gone from what it was, which is a shame. But when the industry gets its money hooks into things that is what happens. Big money and creativity don't usually mix too well. Even with that though, there is still tons of decent games and modding still about, far more than any other time but the huge dark cloud of mass market gaming is making it look bad. It's just that the whole industry has grown so much on other platforms as well.

The game industry in general is now the same as Hollywood/pop chart music....it's mostly manufactured for the masses type of crud from corporate suits, but there are still some real gems out there if you look.

Quite sad isnt it, for the last few years i'v never seen anything newish apart from metro 1033 which was abit different. everything else seems like a clone of another game, Especially on the MMO and FPS front.

Heres fingers crossed for battlefield 3 and Starwars: The Old Republic.

MeMeMeMe · 22 Nov 2010 at 22:23

Blue160 said:
Why lol?

In what other situation could you takesomeone elses work for nothing and not call it theft?

Going to the library.

WingZero30 · 22 Nov 2010 at 22:35

mythicdawn07 said:
Quite sad isnt it, for the last few years i'v never seen anything newish apart from metro 1033 which was abit different. everything else seems like a clone of another game, Especially on the MMO and FPS front.

Heres fingers crossed for battlefield 3 and Starwars: The Old Republic.

Yeah I agree. This generation where ever I turn in a game shop I always see FPS with the same boring dark atmosphere and it is always about killing mutants/zombies. Like I mention many times there is hardly much variety this generation. Where are large numbers of 3rd person platform/adventure games which made previous generations of consoles a wonder and a joy to have. Where are variety of different fighting games or the likes of crash bandicoot which were so popular?

britboy4321 · 22 Nov 2010 at 23:48

Ozzie Dave said:
lack of creativity ...

They try creativity with games like SPORE, and they get absolutely ripped to pieces on boards like - um - this one - Fundamentally because part and parcel of creativity is some things will go wrong within the game.

And spore ANYWAY was of course, massively, mentally pirated. This time the pirates justified their actions with .. 'er .. er .. er .. can't use the 'lack of innovation' argument .. er .. 'it costs too much despite being cheaper then virtually every console game ever, and I'm just er .. 'trying it until I get bored of it' - if I'm still playing my pirate copy in 14 months I'll buy it in sale for £9.99 so - there you go -- theft justified'.'

britboy4321 · 23 Nov 2010 at 00:04

The most original game I can rememeber .. DRM free .. very cheap to buy (in fact name your own price!!), made by a small, independent development house - yup - in other words guys like you and me .. no big corporation stuff here ..

Read and weep, then understand just how much actual weight the 'I'm stealing the stuff for a valid reason' posts actually hold.

http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2008/11/14/90-percent-of-world-of-goo-installs-are-pirated/1

If you were 2dBoy wouldn't you in all honesty think 'screw this barrel of thieves' and move away from the PC? I would 1000 times over .. so would most other developers (proof? er, they already have) ... and yes 'self justified' thieves .. I indeed do know you don't give a monkeys .. but don't keep pretending you're on some moral personal crusade for the greater good that happens to give you free stuff as some side effect. It's grating. :/

Tefal · 23 Nov 2010 at 00:19

he team admits that this method neglects to take dynamic IPs or multiple legit installs into account, but reckons it must roughly balance out with those who have multiple pirate copies behind a firewall or who disable online scores.

I doubt that very much as pretty much every average person with an average isp has a dynamic ip.

britboy4321 · 23 Nov 2010 at 00:21

Tefal said:
I doubt that very much as pretty much every average person with an average isp has a dynamic ip.

Yea but they'll all have installed the game approximately once each on average. Maybe 1.001 time each on average. And don't throw anecdotal 'but I installed it 22 times' evidence back at me

How many pirates would have disabled online scores? now bear in mind there are 9 pirates per single legit install? Of course it at least evens out ..

rexehuk · 23 Nov 2010 at 00:35

I suppose I pirated this game?... but you can't really do so lol, you need a battlenet account and BNET even said, DOWNLOAD THE GAME FROM WHERE YOU WANT, I love Bnet and always have (played diablo since 1995). In essence their GAME INSTALL is nothing but a shell, its useless without online access, so it makes sense if its on torrents / mirrored, cuts their costs hugely in terms of bandwidth and packaging. I had the game pre-downloaded via torrent days before official release, then bought a CD key on release day, no download wait and one happy customer

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Regardless I paid the £45 and got some good fun out of it, those pirates wont get much tbh the multiplayer makes this game what it is... along with the wealth of maps added/updated daily.

If anyone fancies a game, drop me a line. I haven't done PvP yet, usually 2 v 2 or 2 v 3 Coop Vs AI

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ubersonic · 23 Nov 2010 at 00:43

rexehuk said:
those pirates wont get much tbh the multiplayer makes this game what it is... along with the wealth of maps added/updated daily.

Sorry to tell you but the has been a LAN hack for pirate SC2 out for ages, guess all that time blizzard spent working heir crappy battle.net software into the game and their removal of LAN play has come back to bite them right in the behind as the pirate copy of SC2 is now better than the legit version rofl.

Lets all hope that Blizzard realise that their attempt to curb piracy via forcing people to sign into battle.net to play has failed miserably and that they patch in LAN support for the legit players too (as a lot of them are now downloading the pirate version as well for the LAN support)

Tefal · 23 Nov 2010 at 01:25

britboy4321 said:
Yea but they'll all have installed the game approximately once each on average. Maybe 1.001 time each on average. And don't throw anecdotal 'but I installed it 22 times' evidence back at me How many pirates would have disabled online scores? now bear in mind there are 9 pirates per single legit install? Of course it at least evens out ..

err no they did it by the ip's that updated stats so you install once but your stats are updated dozens/hundreds of times.

now bear in mind there are 9 pirates per single legit install?

No there aren't. that figure is made from the utterly bull**** assumption that every time a persons stats are updated thier ip will be identical, so basically every time the average person loads up the game and their stats are updated they're recorded as a new person by this system.