Pirate ISP, Yarr!

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not sure if this is new news but the pirate party in Sweden (the political group that hosts the pirate bay via their parliamentary immunity) is launching an ISP :D

Long live the Pirate ISP! :D

Hopefully soon the MPIA/RIAA/etc will finally realise piracy is good for them and the economy and just let it go lol
 
not sure if this is new news but the pirate party in Sweden (the political group that hosts the pirate bay via their parliamentary immunity) is launching an ISP :D

Long live the Pirate ISP! :D

Hopefully soon the MPIA/RIAA/etc will finally realise piracy is good for them and the economy and just let it go lol

Oh - yet another person who thinks that people not paying for games/music/movies is "good" for the companies involved.

Try working your current job - but for no money.
Then tell me it's all good.
 
All parliaments have some form of immunity to the law, they had to after Europe adopted/is increasing adopting a litigious state similar to that seen in the states. It it was simply revoked then politicians wouldn't be able to make certain difficult decisions without bringing personal interest into the equation. This seems to be a rock and a hard place scenario which will be at the very least quite interesting as it develops.

@ stoofa. Sweden has been huge on civil rights for several decades. The "Pirate" party's name is not literal, but jest (almost black humour) at the state of the anti piracy outfits operating there. It's not surprising that in such a nation there would quickly be a political presence after the anti-piracy groups have influenced the courts, provided incentive to officials and blackmailed citizens.

I should make it clear that the anti-piracy groups are private companies, not to be confused with the music industry.

Sadly there's an outfit operating the in uk (FACT) who're using similar tactics in their up and coming second case against a pair of forum admins. The problem is they are the ones running the case. They are providing the police with instructions, evidence and how to go about the "investigation". That is to say, the police haven't done anything, some private firm walked up to their door and started bossing them around. Their influence over enough powerful people in government means that they, not the police, are also holding all the (obviously totally impartial) "evidence". - Brief overview: http://torrentfreak.com/admins-of-oldest-bittorrent-site-face-criminal-charges-100721/

In short, the "pirate" isp is a response to the grey and downright illegal tactics certain companies have been using utilising similarly grey, but legal - subtle difference, practises to gain attention. Also the 1 download = 1 lost sale idea was a spin created by those same companies to bolster their cases. A spin which amusingly, congress asked them to prove and they quite obviously couldn't. If you buy a film then invite 10 friends around to watch it it's totally legal. If those same 10 friends got it via the interweb it's counted as 10 lost sales. Those same double standards have been present on both sides for years.
 
Oh - yet another person who thinks that people not paying for games/music/movies is "good" for the companies involved.

Try working your current job - but for no money.
Then tell me it's all good.

To be honest a lot of people who pirate stuff would have no intention of actually buying the product anyway, so in a sense the company isnt losing anything at all.
 
Oh - yet another person who thinks that people not paying for games/music/movies is "good" for the companies involved.

Try working your current job - but for no money.
Then tell me it's all good.

You shouldn't believe all the lies your hear from the record companies, "we lost X million £ due to piracy this year!" do you really think that if all the people who downloaded an mp3 of the internet didn't have that ability then they would have instead gone out to a shop and paid £12.99 for the album the song was off?

Here is an even better example: in 1991 somebody I knew gave me a copied audio tape of the Guns N Roses album Appetite for destruction, the record company will say they lost a £9.99 sale even though I would never have bought the real tape anyway.

But here is the kicker: after hearing the tape GnR became one of my favourite bands and today I own 5 of their albums on CD, 1 on limited edition vinyl, 1 of their VHS cassettes, 2 of their DVDs, various T-Shirts, a mug, and more. I have also seen them live twice at UK festivals costing ~£200 for each ticket and at those festivals I saw bands I hadn't tried listening too before such as the Foo Fighters, Within Temptation and Bullet for my Valentine and like those bands so much I bought their albums too.

So, you really thing the record industry is out of pocket there? its not my fault their using a 19th century business model in 2010.
 
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