Pirelli Pzero Rosso VS Michelin PS2

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I had to mention this because the change is pretty dramatic.

First of all I ideally wanted Michelin Super Sports, but they are not yet n-rated, as such I decided to go with what all Porsche drivers recommends, the PS2, but I was not hearing paying the £1100-£1200 price tag when in 6-12 months my intentions are to change over to the Super Sports.

So went searching on Ebay, found a tyre fitter who seemed to have a lot of N-rated tyres, gave them a call, turns out he himself owns three 911's and has contract with local dealerships regarding take off tyres.

So I got myself 4x Michelin N-rated PS2's with 5mm for the bargain price of £300. Went to local tyre fitter who inspected them and gave them the all safe.

Now I've come from Pirelli Pzero Rosso's with 5-6mm on the front and 3mm on the rear. The car handled should we so OK on these, due to the engine layout there was still tons of grip, but the car never really inspired confidence, especially on turn in.

Since the PS2's have been fitted dry grip is slightly improved, wet grip is massively improved and confidence in these tyres are much better. On a little test roundabout I have the ROSSO's would start to slip around 32mph, the PS2's are not breaking away until 35-36mph but allow the car to be more controllable once at that limit compared to the ROSSO's. Same again for some fast sharpish bends, the ROSSO's were a tad over 60mph, the PS2's can push 70.

In the wet the car is no longer skitty, it still feels planted and very confidence inspiring.

In short if you own a Porsche and its fitted with Pirelli Pzero ROSSO's, do yourself a favour, either upgrade to the superior PZERO, or get yourself a set of Michelin PS2, or alternatively grab the Super Sports once they get N-rated.

Now the car is complete, I am loving it and its amazing the difference a quality set of tyres can make. Especially when you consider the people who spends lots of money on suspension upgrades and then fit budget performance tyres.
 
Even the Pzero Nero's i had on my Fiesta were junk. Hated them. Not sure how they compare to yours but i don't think i'm ever going to get Pirellis again.
 
pzero i never crashed a porsche yet iv had about 20 of them they all had them tyres
 
I use pe2's and find them absolutey brilliant so I can imagine the ps2's being even better. I'm down to about 3mm on the front now, starting to get a little interesting in the wet.
 
porshe dindnt put pirellis on standard for a laugh you know
 
I had some new Discs and Pads on the front of my RS4 yesterday and the difference is amazing as the middle pedal now works. :D
 
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I knew this thread was coming :p I need some PS2's on the supra!

You really don't. It's different for Porsche because there is so little choice with N rated tyres but for everything else there are numerous superior tyres out there to the PS2, a tyre which is now positively geriatric in tyre terms.
 
[TW]Fox;19597188 said:
Part worns on a 911?

Why is the local dealership taking off perfectly good N rated tyres anyway?

I suspect people with punctures, one tyre bad but you always change in pairs, so axles are matched. Or in such circumstances if you take your car into Porsche and you need new tyres and they fit a new n-rated version of the tyre some will request you also change your other tyres to the updated n-rating as well so that all 4 tyres are of the same n-rated version.

Nothing wrong with part worns, do you change your tyres when their down to 5mm, do they perform worse than when new? Simple answer pretty much no, apart from maybe standing water due to less tread clearance. I just need a stop gap until I can get the tyre I want in n-rating. :)
 
Even the Pzero Nero's i had on my Fiesta were junk. Hated them. Not sure how they compare to yours but i don't think i'm ever going to get Pirellis again.


Pirelli's line up is:-

Pirelli Corsa R - Track orientated tyre
Pirelli Corsa System - Track/road tyre, 90% as good as Michelin CUPs in dry but vastly better in wet. Near damn impossible to get though.
Pirelli PZERO - According to reviews its one of the best.
Pirelli Pzero ROSSO - Its OK, but not amazing.
Pirelli Pzero NERO - Pretty poor.
Pirelli P6000 - Just don't do it.

So as you can see the NERO's you had are quite low down in the range when it comes to grip/handling properties.
 
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