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I've had my 5960x system for quite a few years now. Normally at this point i'd just replace the GPU & continue using it, but there's been some.... complications. To put it in a tl;dr form - chassis is falling apart, some fans are failing, wiring is gone to hell, etc etc. So i will be replacing the chassis AND the GPU, AND the whole cooling system. At which point I might as well consider upgrading my Mobo/cpu.
My plan is to have the new system use the 1x whatever new Nvidia card comes out (Ive given SLI too many chances.. no more! SLI can go F itself), with idea that I will eventually be upgrading it to the "1180ti" or "Titan". This will be for a top-end gaming 4k gaming PC with some (not often) 3d / simulation rendering in maya, nuke, houdini etc.
Now, 5960x has been a decent processor but i really do want more clockspeed. I am running it on stock (mostly because due to aforementioned "complications" i cant give it enough cooling to safely oc it), but I plan to have the next system use Noctua DH15 or something similar, which would let me OC stuff. The question is, do i want to use 8700k or 7900x instead?
5960x seems to have lower performance than 8700k, but they are about the same when OC'd i think. The problem is losing considerable memory bandwidth by switching to 8700k. So it seems to be more of a sidegrade than an upgrade.
7900x seems to be overall a fantastic chip, the problem is that its clocked lower by default (which would normally be fine since you can OC, however...), however based on the few benches I saw, for it to reach same clock performance as other chips it heats up to something close to a volcano. I do not mind spending £££ if 7900x gives me better performance, however im afraid that unless i go for some uber custom loop, i will be getting LESS from it than I otherwise would from 5960x or 8700k. Almost every report says that 7900k requires a ******* fridge to work properly...
To put this into some perspective, i do not plan to use liquid cooling. My plan is to have something like Noctua DH15, Dark Rock 3 or Scythe FUMA + case fans in a large tower. Im too unexperienced to risk custom loops (+I want to avoid maintenance) and i dont trust AIOs (plus they dont seem to be better than air anyway). If i can run the CPU around 4.6-4.7 or so while gaming, that's fine by me - i dont need to push into 5+. I do however multitask while gaming (i.e. i'd be watching some movies, or a twitch stream on 2nd monitor while 4k gaming on primary monitor, or downloading some torrents etc), so im not sure if i can trust the default Turbo boost, hence the need to overclock.
Another factor to keep track of is age/socket. 8700 and 7900 are using the new 14nm, while my 5960 is 22, and the fact that 5960 is relatively older socket means it less "future proof". There is also issue of PCIe lanes etc - although im really stupid in this regard, and know nothing about whats good or bad.
Given all this, would you recommend i:
1. Get the new mobo for my existing i7 5960x, and OC it?
2. Get the new mobo AND i7 8700k and OC it?
3. Get the new mobo AND i9 7900x and DONT OC it?
4. Get the new mobo AND i9 7900x and OC it?
5. Do nothing, ducttape the system until Icy Lake comes out?
Cheers!
My plan is to have the new system use the 1x whatever new Nvidia card comes out (Ive given SLI too many chances.. no more! SLI can go F itself), with idea that I will eventually be upgrading it to the "1180ti" or "Titan". This will be for a top-end gaming 4k gaming PC with some (not often) 3d / simulation rendering in maya, nuke, houdini etc.
Now, 5960x has been a decent processor but i really do want more clockspeed. I am running it on stock (mostly because due to aforementioned "complications" i cant give it enough cooling to safely oc it), but I plan to have the next system use Noctua DH15 or something similar, which would let me OC stuff. The question is, do i want to use 8700k or 7900x instead?
5960x seems to have lower performance than 8700k, but they are about the same when OC'd i think. The problem is losing considerable memory bandwidth by switching to 8700k. So it seems to be more of a sidegrade than an upgrade.
7900x seems to be overall a fantastic chip, the problem is that its clocked lower by default (which would normally be fine since you can OC, however...), however based on the few benches I saw, for it to reach same clock performance as other chips it heats up to something close to a volcano. I do not mind spending £££ if 7900x gives me better performance, however im afraid that unless i go for some uber custom loop, i will be getting LESS from it than I otherwise would from 5960x or 8700k. Almost every report says that 7900k requires a ******* fridge to work properly...
To put this into some perspective, i do not plan to use liquid cooling. My plan is to have something like Noctua DH15, Dark Rock 3 or Scythe FUMA + case fans in a large tower. Im too unexperienced to risk custom loops (+I want to avoid maintenance) and i dont trust AIOs (plus they dont seem to be better than air anyway). If i can run the CPU around 4.6-4.7 or so while gaming, that's fine by me - i dont need to push into 5+. I do however multitask while gaming (i.e. i'd be watching some movies, or a twitch stream on 2nd monitor while 4k gaming on primary monitor, or downloading some torrents etc), so im not sure if i can trust the default Turbo boost, hence the need to overclock.
Another factor to keep track of is age/socket. 8700 and 7900 are using the new 14nm, while my 5960 is 22, and the fact that 5960 is relatively older socket means it less "future proof". There is also issue of PCIe lanes etc - although im really stupid in this regard, and know nothing about whats good or bad.
Given all this, would you recommend i:
1. Get the new mobo for my existing i7 5960x, and OC it?
2. Get the new mobo AND i7 8700k and OC it?
3. Get the new mobo AND i9 7900x and DONT OC it?
4. Get the new mobo AND i9 7900x and OC it?
5. Do nothing, ducttape the system until Icy Lake comes out?
Cheers!