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dannywaugh1

dannywaugh1

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Hi all,

My current system is now 8 years old and is starting to show its age, I'm trying to plan a new system which will be used for work, gaming, video editing and potentially streaming.

Game wise I tend to play Euro / American Truck sim and other racing sim, MSFS, cant really play new titles but with a new system I will be able to.

I do tend to keep my systems for some time but not going to mention 'future proof' because nothing ever is.

Current main system specs are:
Intel i5-4690K CPU @4GHZ
16 GB Ram
GTX 970.

Any new system will be a huge upgrade in performance coming from what I currently have.

I also plan to get either a Samsung G9 or the LG 49" 49WQ95C-W both 5120x1440 and would like a Bluray writer for making backups and I do like to have plenty of storage.

I had penciled a system together below (without monitor)

CPU: AMD Ryzen™ 9 7950X,
CPU Cooler: Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI
Ram: 32GB (2x16GB) Corsair DDR5 Vengeance, PC5-48000 (6000) AMD EXPO
Power: 1200W Corsair RM1200x SHIFT
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 XL
ODD: Pioneer BDR-S12XLT 16x Blu Ray Writer
Storage: 500GB Samsung 980 Pro, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro, 2x 1TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD's

This comes in around £4k ish.

Welcome people ideas and feedback.

Thanks!
 
basically you're just picking the most expensive components at this point
will it work together? yes
is it good value? no
is it wise? most definitely not

if it were my money i'd halve the budget and get a better value spec and use the other £2k for a holiday or something else
 
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You are completely right, and what I did failed to mention is I haven't really got much of an idea as to where to start.

But starting at 2k is a good point.

Thanks!
 
blow your budget build but cheaper than your original spec...and with a ryzen X3D CPU
My basket at OcUK:

Total: £3,519.76 (includes delivery: £11.99)​



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more sensible budget:
My basket at OcUK:

Total: £2,290.85 (includes delivery: £11.99)​



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be quiet! Pure Base 600 Midi Tower Case - Black Window
CA-11Y-BQ
£95 (incl. VAT)
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AMD Ryzen 7 7700X Eight Core 5.40GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail
CP-3DF-AM
£360 (incl. VAT)
£260 (incl. VAT)
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be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750W ATX 3.1 80 Plus Gold Power Supply
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dannywaugh1 said:
I haven't really got much of an idea as to where to start.
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For a strong gaming system, you only need a decent 6 core CPU, like 7600/X or 13600K (though the 13600K has much stronger productivity performance, due to the 8 e-cores).

The 8 core CPUs, like 7700/X or 13700K are strong all-rounder CPUs, for a mix of gaming and productivity.

For a more productivity heavy PC, I'd personally go for a 7900 non-X (stock, or eco mode) or 13700 non-K (run power limited), to keep the sustained load power down (energy prices and all that). Not sure if what you do uses the GPU, or not?

The 'ultimate' gaming PC would have a 7800X3D or 13900K, but just for decent 1440p or 4K gaming, the 7700/X and 13700K are plenty strong enough, so I personally wouldn't buy anything higher than this.

Graphics cards: with your budget, the cheapest option I'd pick is a 6800 XT, which can do 1440p comfortably and 4K pretty well, except for max-settings in the very latest games. A 4070 Ti or 7900 XT are a lot more, but you do gain a chunk (of extra performance) and for your resolution and budget I prioritise a strong GPU (because 5120 x 1440 is very demanding).

In the spec below, I'd downgrade the 13700K to a non-K, but OCUK don't sell it. I'd prefer a 7900 non-X, but just to give an alterntive to tamzzy's AMD builds.

Intel Core i7-13700K (Raptor Lake) Socket LGA1700 Processor - Retail - £440.00
Gigabyte B760 AORUS ELITE AX DDR4 (LGA 1700) DDR4 ATX Motherboard - £219.98
Kingston FURY Beast 64GB (2x32GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C40 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (KF556C40BBK2-64) - £239.98

Gigabyte GeForce RTX 4080 Gaming OC 16GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card - £1,299.95

2x WD Black SN850X 2TB SSD M.2 2280 NVME PCI-E Gen4 Solid State Drive (WDS200T2X0E) - £149.99

be quiet! Silent Loop 2 360 High Performance CPU Water Cooler - 360mm - £149.95
Phanteks Eclipse P600S Glass Silent Midi Tower Case - Black - £152.99
MSI MPG A1000G PCIE5 UK PSU 1000W 80 Plus Gold Power Supply - £159.95

Grand Total: £2,974.76 (includes delivery charge, £11.99)
 
dannywaugh1 said:
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 XL
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Why do you need such a large case?

dannywaugh1 said:
and would like a Bluray writer for making backups
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Don't. Get external USB hard drives instead. BDs simply don't have the capacity.

dannywaugh1 said:
Storage: 500GB Samsung 980 Pro, 1TB Samsung 980 Pro, 2x 1TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD's
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Get two NVME drives: one for the OS and one for data.

dannywaugh1 said:
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090
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This is the one to get if you have the budget.
 
Quartz said:
Why do you need such a large case?



Don't. Get external USB hard drives instead. BDs simply don't have the capacity.



Get two NVME drives: one for the OS and one for data.



This is the one to get if you have the budget.
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One of the first cases I looked at with room for a ODD, I already have external drives and cloud backup but like the idea of backing things of more importance to blu ray for archival reasons.
 
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dannywaugh1 said:
I already have external drives and cloud backup but like the idea of backing things of more importance to blu ray for archival reasons.
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An ordinary BD-R disc will last 5-10 years under optimal conditions. That is, you put it in a box protected from light (they decay in sunlight) and in a temperature-controlled environment. In practice you are unlikely to achieve that at home. Gold BD-Rs are another matter and are expected to last up to 100 years. They're around £5 apiece. Again, conditions need to be optimal.

If you're set on a BD drive, get an external USB one. That way it can sit in a drawer when not in use instead of being a dust trap.
 
External drive sounds like a better idea.

Also a 7800x3d is a far better idea now that I've done some home work.

Not sure on motherboard but definitely set on a 4090.

I also asked myself (again) what will I use it for, and it will be mainly gaming, working from home, I cant really see myself streaming or editing many videos if any at all really.
 
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The fractal design define 7 is a very nice case. Well designed and built. Very wide. I have one.
If you go with water cooling and an external drive then you won't need the regular define 7 ( size wise ) let alone a xl one.
I'd think carefully about requirements and budget before spending like a grand plus on a graphics card.
What are you backing up? YouTube is worth considering for videos ( as one of several back ups ).
 
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