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kizzab88

kizzab88

kizzab88

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I have recently updated a few bits and pieces being a newer GPU & CPU to my rig as well as an SSD. The motherboard and ram are a year old and the case, HD, and PSU are all a few years old.

Basically I'm noticing my FPS on BF4 mostly to be dropping to as low as 25-30fps in some situations - Now I'm sure this shouldn't be the case and that the 8350 shouldn't be bottlenecking the gpu that much if at all.

Is it possibly the ram or psu causing these issues? Normally it does keep a steady 70+ fps ( all stats on high not ultra AA off v sync off ) but it is dropping and notably lagging.

The mobo is slightly older so the drivers wouldn't work I had to update the bios myself - could this be an issue? Basically I'm not made of money and this was a real treat on the credit card as I wont be able to go out much the next couple of months so its frustrating me its not working correctly.

I have just switched over to windows 8 pro and I'm still leaning how to use it! (might switch back to 7). I haven't yet changed the power to high performance rather than balanced as I have read this could be an issue? is it ok to leave this on high performance all the time? I know the psu is only a 620 but I was under the impression this would be sufficient. I have also noticed when hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL it does state on performance sockets: 1 Cores: 4 logical processors: 8 now im no expect but surely this should say 8 cores?

Any help would be much appreciated this is getting to me!

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 WindForce 3x "GHz Edition" 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card

AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8350 Black Edition 4.00GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail

Kingston HyperX 3K SSD 120GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Drive (SH103S3/120G)

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 500GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (ST3500320AS)

Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 AMD 760G (Socket AM3+) DDR3 MicroATX Motherboard

GeIL Black Dragon 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel

Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro Rev 2 CPU Cooler

Antec 900 Nine Hundred Ultimate Gaming Case - Black

Monitor benq 24 xl2411t

I'm at work at the moment not at my personal computer but the psu is a xhcrosshair 620 modular power pack i believe it could be almost two years old. I'm now having to debate selling the card and getting a cheaper card in order to upgrade psu, mobo or ram?!

Thanks again.
 
Flapduckquack said:
I've got a feeling it might be your motherboard, i could be wrong though. What Psu do you have? It really depends a lot on the make aswell for how well made it is.
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I would agree with you about the motherboard. The mother the op has chosen is might be inadequate for the cpu. Lower end amd boards struggle a lot powering 8core cpu's, even at stock. :( i would strongly recommend that you change it to a full atx board like the gigabyte ud3 rev4 or the asus m5a99x or get a lower powered cpu like the 6300, but even then that micro atx board will not be great.
 
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I use this as a test board for some AMD set ups and it is overheating the VRM's and throttling under big loads. A fan would help if it had more VRM's or a heatsink on them but unfortunately it will just delay the throttling by a few minutes max. I have a RAM fan cooler which helped a little bit when i put my own heatsinks on it in a ghetto mod but still had throttling at times.

I would get another board to make the most of your gear. Unless you are only playing BF4 and other well threaded games, you will find that there is a lot of performance to be gained by clocking the CPU up. The 70 is on the same level as a 290x and i saw my 8350 @ 4.8 Ghz holding the average GPU load to around the mid 70%'s in online multiplayer. I expect your 8350 is capable of hitting 4.8 with little effort, as most are able to. Unfortunately your current board is struggling with your 4Ghz stock clock.
 
Wow. Guys really appreciate it. Could you please put this more in simple terms im fairly computer literate but jonot amazing. VRM ? I think ill sell the card and pick up a slightly cheaper one and buy a new board. Most likelyhttp://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-502-AS

I dont know the first think about over clocking apart from turbo key all help n is much appreciated and if you could explain how my board is letting me down slightly simplified I would be very thankful. Just a shame im skint!
 
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In a nut shell the VRM's are what delivers nice clean power to your CPU, If these are not kept cool and start to overheat because your CPU is pulling to much power them they go into a self protect kinda mode which limits the amount of power they can provide.

On AM3+ sockets designed to work with Piledriver you normally have huge heatsink's on the the Northbridge and Southbridge where as your current board doesn't.

Also try to remove the overclock that you have use with the automatic feature and do it manually as you may well fine that the auto overclock is what is still generating the massive power pull.
 
Also is my ram fine? Thanks again! I might see if anyone is selling a half decent mobo on here! Just seen on my cpu cooler artic 7 some of the pins looks anodized ? Seems odd!
 
Thanks for the help guys I picked up a :

Asus M5A99X PRO R2.0 AMD 990X (Socket AM3+) DDR3 ATX Motherboard &

Corsair Hydro H60 V2 High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler now looking at ram and my horrific credit card statement!

Thanks again
 
RAM is fine, you wont notice any gains by upgrading it.

The Corsair AIO cooler is good enough to, i personally am not a fan of AIO coolers but they work quite well and don't take up a ton of space.

Motherboard is a good board and easily capable of bringing the CPU to 4.8Ghz+ should you feel the need to get some more grunt out of it.

This thread has a ton of people talking about overclocking their 8 core fx chips:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18544198
 
kizzab88 said:
I have also noticed when hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL it does state on performance sockets: 1 Cores: 4 logical processors: 8 now im no expect but surely this should say 8 cores?
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As no-one tackled this question, i will:

That is right. The CPU is a 4-Core chip, with Hyperthread (1 core acts like two) to give 8 logical cores. This is where the AMD 'hype machine' mislead people.

The 4770k, 3770k and 2600k/2700k are all 4-core Hyperthreaded CPU's (8 logical cores) too, and they are branded as Quad-cores.

Xeons are the same, the 6 and 8 core xeons actually have 12 and 16 logical core respecitively. Though the difference with Intel chips is you can turn the HT on and off.
 
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