Please help with new build....so confused!

nutpuk

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Hi,

I'm in need of your help with a new build.

The purpose of the build is for video editing with Adobe Premier and also for gaming. Games include Starcraft 2, Crysis 3 and Bioshock. Budget £1200

My current PC died back in December and I've been sitting tight hoping that the new Graphics cards from Nvidia and AMD will surface. However it looks like there not going to any time soon.

I'm confused between which socket X79 or Z77?
Confused over i5 or i7?
And not sure which GFX as they've all been out a year and im sure as soon as I buy one the new one will be released.

I'm not much of an over clocker so was looking at this two bundles pre overclocked.

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BU-124-OE&groupid=43&catid=2384&subcat=2386

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BU-122-OE&groupid=43&catid=2384&subcat=2386

I have a case, OCZ 600 PSU and purcahasing a Dell U2413 Monitor.

Please can you help me with the rest? I have a preference to Gigabyte boards as I've found them reliable in the past.

Thanks
 
Pretty good budget if you already have psu, case and monitor.

Are you in need of any peripherals like keyboard/mice?

Here is something along the lines of what I would pick and will explain why:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Gigabyte ATI Radeon HD 7970 Windforce 3X 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with Crysis 3 & Bioshock PC Games £329.99
1 x Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £269.99
1 x Intel 520 Series 240GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £89.99
1 x GeIL EVO Veloce Hot-Rod Red 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (GEV316GB1866C9DC) £79.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD20EZRX) HDD £76.99
Total : £1,098.94 (includes shipping : £10.00).



i7 3770k due to the task you require which is video editing/gaming, this cpu has the best of both worlds with such a huge budget. The difference between Z77 chipest and X79, X79 is the new 2011 socket, not sure if it's worth investing in atm and i see very little threads recommending it.

7970 GPU, fastest single chip available, only out performed by the likes of a £800 GTX690.

16GB of RAM, plenty to edit with and depending on how heavily you edit, you can double it up. I picked that ram due to it being on offer and seems like a decent price.

240gb SSD, heavy video editing, faster you can import and export the more efficient the workflow...i presume :p

That motherboard, purely because the Z77 D3H range is the most popular on here lol.

Last but not lest, overclocking is easy. 30 seconds of reading and you can do it, infact just ask in the overclocking subforum stating your mobo and CPU and they can tell you exactly what clock/voltage you can do with the cooler it comes with.
 
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Thanks!

I'm in need of a mouse and keyboard so any suggestions welcome.

I was thinking of the sidewinder X4...manly for the game side of things.

So you'd recommend buying the parts separate and then trying over clocking? Rather than a bundle?

Would the i5 3750 be adequate or would it struggle with Adobe?
 
nutpuk said:
Thanks!

I'm in need of a mouse and keyboard so any suggestions welcome.

I was thinking of the sidewinder X4...manly for the game side of things.

So you'd recommend buying the parts separate and then trying over clocking? Rather than a bundle?

Would the i5 3750 be adequate or would it struggle with Adobe?
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Ok mouse and keyboard, thats a big no clue for me as everything is personal preference. I use:

YOUR BASKET
1 x Logitech G19 Gaming Keyboard (920-000978) £139.99
1 x CM Storm Sentinel Advance II 8200 DPI Gaming Mouse £47.99
1 x CM Storm Speed RX Mousepad - Large £10.99
Total : £210.37 (includes shipping : £9.50).



But that's just me, best bet is to get everyones opinion and match that persons style with yours.

I would 100% buy the parts seperate, it's most of the time cheaper as well. A 7970 overclocked is like £379, if you buy the non oc'd version it cost like £340. Extra £40 for someone dragging a slider on some software? then leaving it on for 8 hours? Nah lol.
You won't damage your hardware unless you put some stupid volts through it, most of the time it just crashes, bluescreens, doesent POST etc etc. Unless you put a high voltage multiplier through it and fry it instantly or with excessive heat, then it's fine. I am not much of an overclocker myself, a person with more experience will take the £120 left over from your budget and spend half of it on a aftermarket cooler.

I presume you mean the i5 3570k? If so then the difference in gaming between an i7 3770 and i5 3570k is pretty marginal but the i7 is better at editing due to hyperthreading and the ability to utilize the cores better.

If you need the mouse/keyboard within that budget you will probably need to downgrade the GPU to a 7950, that will give you another 80-100 to play with.
 
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The reasons to pick X79 are,

• Greater RAM support, most of the X79 boards have eight DIMM slots.
• Greater RAM bandwidth as X79 is quad channel.
• CPU's with more cores, there are hex core CPU's available (with Hyperthreading = 12 threads) or you can even fit Xeons to some of the boards which have eight cores with Hyperthreading (16 threads)
• Usually there are more SATA ports.
• Usually there are more expansion slots and more PCi-E lanes available for quad SLI/Crossfire.


I have used a X79-UP4, heres my look at it - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18477560


Heres also a review of a great Keyboard/Mouse+Pad - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18476231
 
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stulid said:
The reasons to pick X79 are,

• Greater RAM support, most of the X79 boards have eight DIMM slots.
• CPU's with more cores, there are hex core CPU's available (with Hyperthreading = 12 threads) or you can even fit Xeons to some of the boards which have eight cores with Hyperthreading (16 threads)
• Usually there are more SATA ports.
• Usually there are more expansion slots and more PCi-E lanes available for quad SLI/Crossfire.


I have used a X79-UP4, heres my look at it - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18477560


Heres also a review if a great Keyboard/Mouse+pad - http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18476231
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Quick question on this, if the OP purchased one of these boards, would he be able to slap in the new Haswell chips in a years time? I know they are supposed to use the 2011 socket but is there a big selection atm?

Also @ OP


Z77 based build, complete with mouse/keyboard + mat

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i7-3770K 3.50GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £269.99
1 x Intel 520 Series 240GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive £239.99
1 x MSI HD 7950 Twin Frozr III Boost Edition 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card with Crysis 3 & Bioshock PC Games £239.99
1 x Gigabyte Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) DDR3 Motherboard £89.99
1 x GeIL EVO Veloce Hot-Rod Red 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-14900C9 1866MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (GEV316GB1866C9DC) £79.99
1 x Western Digital Caviar Green 2TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (WD20EZRX) HDD £76.99
1 x CM Storm Sentinel Advance II 8200 DPI Gaming Mouse £47.99
1 x Microsoft SideWinder X4 Gaming Keyboard - Retail (JQD-00006) £32.99
1 x CM Storm Speed RX Mousepad - Large £10.99
Total : £1,100.90 (includes shipping : £10.00).



£100 left over for decent CPU cooler, don't know any myself.
 
Gibbo3771 said:
Quick question on this, if the OP purchased one of these boards, would he be able to slap in the new Haswell chips in a years time? I know they are supposed to use the 2011 socket but is there a big selection atm?
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Haswell will be socket 1150, so a whole new motherboard+chipset is needed.

Ivybridge-E is supposedly Socket2011 compatible still.
 
stulid said:
Haswell will be socket 1150, so a whole new motherboard+chipset is needed.

Ivybridge-E is supposedly Socket2011 compatible still.
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0o0o0o0o, I need to read more :D :D

Awesome and btw that motherboard looks so awesome, love the black/grey.

Also care to add to my build for op

<<<< Noob
 
So now torn between the Gigabyte X79-UD4 and the Z77-D3H.

Is the performace any different between these chipsets for the I7?

I also read you can't use a large cooler with the X79? Any recommendations on coolers for both? As I'll try the overclock myself i guess I'll need something decent.

Thanks again
 
An Nvidia card may help as they support CUDA, you can then use the fast amount of cores found in the card to do the work the CPU normally would, plenty of programs support CUDA.

The RAM is a little tall, so adding an aftermarket heatsink which has a fan that overhangs the RAM slots could be an issue.
 
nutpuk said:
I also read you can't use a large cooler with the X79? Any recommendations on coolers for both? As I'll try the overclock myself i guess I'll need something decent.

Thanks again
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There are plenty of large coolers that will fit (again using low-profile RAM is a good idea)

This Thermalright ArchonSB-EX2 - http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-106-TR&groupid=701&catid=2330&subcat=2352 - is thinner than most, heres a picture of it squeezing in nicely on an X79 board with tall RAM - http://www.thermalright.com/images/cooler/archon_sb-e_x2/features/33.jpg
 
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